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This should've been what was done from the get go. Browsers have given us control over cookies for a very long time now. But hey, it's the EU, there's a reason

This should've been what was done from the get go. Browsers have given us control over cookies for a very long time now. But hey, it's the EU, there's a reason the EU has a lack of tech companies. I'm sure that when they finally do what you suggest they'll screw it up somehow as well.

dgellow 6y ago
You want regulators to design APIs?
- Mirioron 6y ago
  What I want is irrelevant. I have as much say about what happens in the EU as I have say in US politics despite being from the EU. The politicians will do something stupid regardless and then years later not understand why things are going poorly. Meanwhile the Germans and French will love it, because it screws those evil evil American companies. So, the regulators might as well design APIs. It's hard to imagine that it would end up any worse than their usual.
- lifeAsNerd 6y ago
  I'm pretty grossed out that the internet has been taken over by the government. Blocking cookies should be done by users via software. This is only going to make the barrier to entry higher and more expensive. I have no idea what many small non tech businesses would do? Pay a few thousand every year when standards change?
  - boomlinde 6y ago
    > This is only going to make the barrier to entry higher and more expensive. That's the point. We want the barrier to entry in widespread tracking to be high. For what it's worth, you don't need cookie consent warnings if you use them only for functionality integral to the product you offer your user. For example, if you need to use a cookie to facilitate a logged-in user session, you don't need to warn them. The only ones paying the high price is the people who use it to collect user information not essential to the service they provide to the user, for god knows what.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      Actually, we want to to be so high that nobody (including massive companies) can circumvent user consent.
  - dgellow 6y ago
    > Blocking cookies should be done by users via software. That’s what is done. The government doesn’t block cookies for you, they set the rules with user data, and the actors (service providers and users) act accordingly. That’s how things should be. I don’t want the governments to build or design software, I want them to set the rules and let browser developers and other actors react accordingly. If the reaction isn’t judged well intended or good enough, they are sanctioned accordingly.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  Regulators designing, or at least mandating, an API isn't that weird a concept; for instance that's how PSD2 open banking works in some countries.

dgellow 6y ago

You want regulators to design APIs?

Mirioron 6y ago
What I want is irrelevant. I have as much say about what happens in the EU as I have say in US politics despite being from the EU. The politicians will do something stupid regardless and then years later not understand why things are going poorly. Meanwhile the Germans and French will love it, because it screws those evil evil American companies. So, the regulators might as well design APIs. It's hard to imagine that it would end up any worse than their usual.
lifeAsNerd 6y ago
I'm pretty grossed out that the internet has been taken over by the government. Blocking cookies should be done by users via software. This is only going to make the barrier to entry higher and more expensive. I have no idea what many small non tech businesses would do? Pay a few thousand every year when standards change?
- boomlinde 6y ago
  > This is only going to make the barrier to entry higher and more expensive. That's the point. We want the barrier to entry in widespread tracking to be high. For what it's worth, you don't need cookie consent warnings if you use them only for functionality integral to the product you offer your user. For example, if you need to use a cookie to facilitate a logged-in user session, you don't need to warn them. The only ones paying the high price is the people who use it to collect user information not essential to the service they provide to the user, for god knows what.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Actually, we want to to be so high that nobody (including massive companies) can circumvent user consent.
- dgellow 6y ago
  > Blocking cookies should be done by users via software. That’s what is done. The government doesn’t block cookies for you, they set the rules with user data, and the actors (service providers and users) act accordingly. That’s how things should be. I don’t want the governments to build or design software, I want them to set the rules and let browser developers and other actors react accordingly. If the reaction isn’t judged well intended or good enough, they are sanctioned accordingly.
rsynnott 6y ago
Regulators designing, or at least mandating, an API isn't that weird a concept; for instance that's how PSD2 open banking works in some countries.