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There are tail wagging the dog incentives here. Part (not all) of the Mac resurgence was that you needed a Mac to develop iPhone apps. Part (not all) of the n

There are tail wagging the dog incentives here. Part (not all) of the Mac resurgence was that you needed a Mac to develop iPhone apps. Part (not all) of the new Windows resurgence is that if you even really want to play around with ML or VR dev you need a Windows machine. I feel like it's about the possibilities - with WSL, Windows Terminal I get what's essentially the mac experience but can suddenly do so much more.

scarface74 6y ago
The Mac’s “resurgence” started around 1999 with the introduction of the iMac - 9 years before the App Store opened. Apple currently sells around 16-20 million Macs a year. No matter how good WSL is, if you want to develop iOS apps, you still have to buy a Mac. There are around 200 million consumer PCs sold a year. Do you really think any significant number or sold to develop VR apps - that market is minis use.
- abricot 6y ago
  They resurged because windows laptops was straight trash and wireless worked like shit. Apple only needed to do a few things better back then.
GGfpc 6y ago
What makes windows better than osx for VR?
- michaelbuckbee 6y ago
  Most of the VR platforms just aren't supporting Mac b/c of the smaller playerbase, lack of higher end video card support and games support.
- vel0city 6y ago
  Well, one of the biggest platforms for VR gaming has dropped support for Mac OS. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/1/21244468/steam-mac-support-end-steamvr-windows-linux https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/1/21244468/steam-mac-support... Coupled with a history of GPU driver support usually being best on Windows and having good GPU support is usually pretty important for VR, its pretty clear why Windows is probably the best platform for VR development at the moment.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    To put this in perspective, less than 2% of Steam users have a VR headset. It isn’t exactly a huge market. https://www.engadget.com/half-life-alyx-adds-1-million-vr-users-on-steam-022621233.html https://www.engadget.com/half-life-alyx-adds-1-million-vr-us...
6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
> Part (not all) of the new Windows resurgence is that if you even really want to play around with ML... Do you mean machine learning? If so, then that doesn't match my experience at all.

scarface74 6y ago

The Mac’s “resurgence” started around 1999 with the introduction of the iMac - 9 years before the App Store opened. Apple currently sells around 16-20 million Macs a year. No matter how good WSL is, if you want to develop iOS apps, you still have to buy a Mac. There are around 200 million consumer PCs sold a year. Do you really think any significant number or sold to develop VR apps - that market is minis use.

abricot 6y ago
They resurged because windows laptops was straight trash and wireless worked like shit. Apple only needed to do a few things better back then.

GGfpc 6y ago

What makes windows better than osx for VR?

michaelbuckbee 6y ago
Most of the VR platforms just aren't supporting Mac b/c of the smaller playerbase, lack of higher end video card support and games support.
vel0city 6y ago
Well, one of the biggest platforms for VR gaming has dropped support for Mac OS. https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/1/21244468/steam-mac-support-end-steamvr-windows-linux https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/1/21244468/steam-mac-support... Coupled with a history of GPU driver support usually being best on Windows and having good GPU support is usually pretty important for VR, its pretty clear why Windows is probably the best platform for VR development at the moment.
- scarface74 6y ago
  To put this in perspective, less than 2% of Steam users have a VR headset. It isn’t exactly a huge market. https://www.engadget.com/half-life-alyx-adds-1-million-vr-users-on-steam-022621233.html https://www.engadget.com/half-life-alyx-adds-1-million-vr-us...

6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago

> Part (not all) of the new Windows resurgence is that if you even really want to play around with ML... Do you mean machine learning? If so, then that doesn't match my experience at all.