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Why Would You Tweet About Your Coup?
- coldcode 6y agoSuccessful couping seems to be a lost art.
- jim-jim-jim 6y agoThey pulled one in Bolivia just last year.
- cassianoleal 6y agoParaguay a few years before as well. The one in Brazil with extensive use of lawfare and the media was exemplary too. Very well played.
- andrenth 6y agoThe one well played thing is the narrative that gets people to believe the "coup" nonsense.
- cassianoleal 6y agoShould I start linking all the leaks?
- andrenth 6y agoThose leaks that contain nothing of substance? Sure, why not. Waste of space if you ask me.
- andrenth 6y agoIs it a coup to take down the proto-dictator who attempted to remain indefinitely in power via (re-)election fraud?
- pjc50 6y agoShould have read Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%89tat:_A_Practical_Handbook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%89tat:_A_Practica...
- PaulAJ 6y agoI dunno. People read "The Dogs of War" and think "I could do that. Hold my beer and watch this!"
- cs702 6y agoSurreal. One couldn't make this stuff up. I mean, if I were watching one of those brainless action movies late at night and a bunch of tough mercenaries paused to post a tweet about their secret plan to overthrow a government, I would think the plot had turned so unrealistic that I would have to stop watching. There's a limit to how much one can suspend disbelief. The thoughts on my mind now are: Is this really real? Could it be a hoax? For humanity's sake, let's hope it's a hoax. But apparently, yes, this is real, and no, it doesn't seem to be a hoax. So... what, exactly, were these people thinking?
- Loughla 6y agoIt just. Honestly, I have no idea what to even think about this. The facts are so, well, weird. There has to be more to this. I'm never, ever a conspiracy theorist (except hitching onto the Epstein didn't kill himself bandwagon). But this, it just has to be a false flag, or some other sort of set up. Otherwise it's so stupid that it's just amazing.
- LyndsySimon 6y agoI thought for a while that the most likely situation was that these two guys in particular were caught up in something else. A "wrong place, wrong time" thing. Maybe they were down there on an ill-advised vacation, or maybe they were hired to train some private security force. I would have even bought that they were hired to train a group that intended to stage a coup, whether they knew it or not. ... but then I find that the CEO of Silvercorp has claimed them, and has been tweeting about it. I can't think of a single reasonable circumstance that fits all the facts we know about this. As crazy as it all looks, I can't come up with a theory that seems more likely than "the Venezuelan government is telling the truth".
- pjc50 6y agoThe very idea of doing your own private Bay of Pigs is incredibly dumb and hubristic, complete with all the "they'll welcome us as liberators" ideology that made Iraq such a mess. It happens every now and again; I remember Mark Thatcher got arrested for plotting a coup in Guinea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Equatorial_Guinea_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Equatorial_Guinea_coup_d%... (along with various other establishment criminals such as Lord Archer, who later received a four year prison sentence for unrelated perjury). The Guinea plotters didn't shitpost about it on the internet, but neither did they have any real opsec, making it easy for Mark to be convicted. While (correctly) assuming that the UK would take no action against their terrorist plot against another country, they forgot that post-apartheit South Africa might not see it that way. People talk of "keyboard warriors". Here they are. There's an entire subculture that believes that individual ownership of firearms is going to enable them to carry out counter-revolutions. For most this is just a delusion that they talk about constantly. For these guys it was a delusion that they brought to action.
- kryogen1c 6y agoThis is simply not believable at face value. The author's article history is a party-line, narrative-embraced point of view (Trump is ready to gamble with American Lives, Honor Labor by compensating it, Feminism should make you uncomfortable, et al). That doesn't make her wrong obviously, but it indicates an inclination towards group-think I find untoward. Regardless, even if the presented facts are "true" (whatever that means), there simply must be more to the story.
- draw_down 6y agoCome on
- AlexMoffat 6y ago"there simply must be more to the story" === "it's in conflict with what I want to believe"
- kryogen1c 6y agoYes, that's what I explicitly said. This does not seem believable to me. Are you trying to imply something else?
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- dstroot 6y agoI don’t think “===“ means what you think it means.
- LyndsySimon 6y agoI disagree. As I've outline elsewhere in these comments, there are tons of things that make absolutely zero sense about this.
- pjc50 6y agoIt's literally just reporting some tweets. The tweets have been deleted, but plenty of people have screenshots.
- tobr 6y agoWhy am I not surprised that these people would hate on The Last Jedi.
- _iyig 6y agoThis is super tangential (to the article, not your comment) but The Last Jedi is a poor film and this opinion is not controversial. See RT audience score of 43%: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_the_last_jedi https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_the_last_jedi If you've got 45 minutes to spare, RedLetterMedia's review is an in-depth and entertaining criticism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9hwGZFPSmw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9hwGZFPSmw
- keeganpoppen 6y agosurreal beyond belief. well, would have been beyond belief pre-2018, or so, but who the hell knows anymore?
- pjc50 6y agoPrediction: some time in 2021 or earlier someone will livestream or at least livetweet their coup against the US or a state government. Their manifesto will contain the usual quotes from the usual sources, similar to the livestreamed mass shooting at the Christchurch mosque.