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I cant believe I need to point this out, but if you are comparing Nazi Germany (oh Goodwin how right you were) with skipping out of paying a prostitute I think

I cant believe I need to point this out, but if you are comparing Nazi Germany (oh Goodwin how right you were) with skipping out of paying a prostitute I think no further conversation is needed. > Apparently, the act was illegal. Oh no, and he went anyway and fucked a man, despite being illegal. > If that was ok by past standards, why did he run? Dont be dense, it is not OK, it was not OK then and it is even less OK now.The point is that for his times this was not more than a prank.Hell, the trope of running away from a check/bill and left your friends to manage is a classic in old and modern fiction. The only thing than could be considered really outrageous is if the boy was underage, but yet again the age of consent in medieval Florence was probably different than ours.

watwut 6y ago
> Oh no, and he went anyway and fucked a man, despite being illegal. Now you are applying todays standard to past actions. > Dont be dense, it is not OK, it was not OK then and it is even less OK now.The point is that for his times this was not more than a prank. No, it was not. Neither for his times nor for current. You are making standards as it pleases you. > Hell, the trope of running away from a check/bill and left your friends to manage is a classic in old and modern fiction. In real life, in country where homosexual acts are illegal, being suddenly accused of one is not fun harmless prank. Real life is not fiction. In real life, had it been only about money, your friends will distance from you or take you to small claims court. In fiction, it is pretty normal to kill quite a few people with no big deal happening - as long as the killed people are "bad". > I cant believe I need to point this out, but if you are comparing Nazi Germany (oh Goodwin how right you were) with skipping out of paying a prostitute I think no further conversation is needed. I am not saying they are the same. I am saying that knee jerk "past standards" argument is nonsense.

watwut 6y ago

> Oh no, and he went anyway and fucked a man, despite being illegal. Now you are applying todays standard to past actions. > Dont be dense, it is not OK, it was not OK then and it is even less OK now.The point is that for his times this was not more than a prank. No, it was not. Neither for his times nor for current. You are making standards as it pleases you. > Hell, the trope of running away from a check/bill and left your friends to manage is a classic in old and modern fiction. In real life, in country where homosexual acts are illegal, being suddenly accused of one is not fun harmless prank. Real life is not fiction. In real life, had it been only about money, your friends will distance from you or take you to small claims court. In fiction, it is pretty normal to kill quite a few people with no big deal happening - as long as the killed people are "bad". > I cant believe I need to point this out, but if you are comparing Nazi Germany (oh Goodwin how right you were) with skipping out of paying a prostitute I think no further conversation is needed. I am not saying they are the same. I am saying that knee jerk "past standards" argument is nonsense.