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You are not wrong, but, given the low skill of warehouse workers there is always someone to take the job. If you unionize without incentivizing new workers to s

You are not wrong, but, given the low skill of warehouse workers there is always someone to take the job. If you unionize without incentivizing new workers to stop applying your effort will be wasted, especially with a company the size of amazon. Stopping scabs is literally the lynch pin of the plan. We absolutely have the right to picket and block the entrances, it's the entire point.

AmericanChopper 6y ago
If your plan to improve your own working conditions requires you to obstruct others from seeking employment that they’d be happy to have, then you have a bad plan, and you don’t have any moral high ground either. Anybody at any level in any company has an incentive to deny others the right to compete with them. This doesn’t make you a hero to the laborers. You do have a right to picket, you have no right at all to obstruct others in their own search for employment, or in accessing their place of work. Collective bargaining gives you the ability to voluntarily combine your bargaining power. It does not give you any right at all to involuntarily strip others of their own. If you want to know why employees themselves might be anti-union, and get confused as to why anybody would want something that you so clearly see as being against their own interests, this is why. If you don't like the union, it's not as simple as "don't join the union". Because as you demonstrate here, any union organiser with any ambition is going to make their first priority after forming the union to be pushing out non-union members, and restricting their ability to seek employment outside the CBA, by any and all means available (even regardless of legality).
pb7 6y ago
>We absolutely have the right to picket and block the entrances, it's the entire point. You have the right to picket but you have no right to block the entrances to a private property. Your tyranny won't be tolerated in this country. You will be imprisoned or shot dead. Your freedoms do not supersede the freedoms of others.
- uoaei 6y ago
  Interesting. We're allowing death threats to stand on HN now.
  - pb7 6y ago
    Law enforcement is not a death threat. Conspiracy to commit crimes should also not be allowed on HN but here we are with these grasshopper accounts.

AmericanChopper 6y ago

If your plan to improve your own working conditions requires you to obstruct others from seeking employment that they’d be happy to have, then you have a bad plan, and you don’t have any moral high ground either. Anybody at any level in any company has an incentive to deny others the right to compete with them. This doesn’t make you a hero to the laborers. You do have a right to picket, you have no right at all to obstruct others in their own search for employment, or in accessing their place of work. Collective bargaining gives you the ability to voluntarily combine your bargaining power. It does not give you any right at all to involuntarily strip others of their own. If you want to know why employees themselves might be anti-union, and get confused as to why anybody would want something that you so clearly see as being against their own interests, this is why. If you don't like the union, it's not as simple as "don't join the union". Because as you demonstrate here, any union organiser with any ambition is going to make their first priority after forming the union to be pushing out non-union members, and restricting their ability to seek employment outside the CBA, by any and all means available (even regardless of legality).

pb7 6y ago

>We absolutely have the right to picket and block the entrances, it's the entire point. You have the right to picket but you have no right to block the entrances to a private property. Your tyranny won't be tolerated in this country. You will be imprisoned or shot dead. Your freedoms do not supersede the freedoms of others.

uoaei 6y ago
Interesting. We're allowing death threats to stand on HN now.
- pb7 6y ago
  Law enforcement is not a death threat. Conspiracy to commit crimes should also not be allowed on HN but here we are with these grasshopper accounts.