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That doesn't really sound like an issue with the interface, though. Again, I'm sorry you have to deal with that but you're basically saying that companies need

That doesn't really sound like an issue with the interface, though. Again, I'm sorry you have to deal with that but you're basically saying that companies need to account for the possibility that someone who clicked the "X" to close a window may not have intended to close the window. That's just crazy talk.

soulofmischief 6y ago
No, that's not what I said. If you want to have this discussion in good faith then let's not mince words. I said a proper platform allows user control and customization over the interface, providing a way for users to continue using interfaces that make sense to them even if some young engineer at Apple finds a clever new way to shove some functionality into a screen gesture. This isn't crazy talk. It's exactly how my Linux-based computer and Android-based phone operate and I've been using the same window manager / launcher for over a decade, while the mainstream default ones like Gnome 3 continue to make the strangest and most anti-user design decisions. I just bought a MIUI phone and if I couldn't flash my own Paranoid Android ROM in the coming weeks I would have to return this phone because the UI is bonkers.
- dkonofalski 6y ago
  I wasn't responding to that part so I feel like you're the one that's mincing words. I was responding to the part where you said Apple's UI gives you physical anxiety because, as you said, it's "claustrophobic". A literal child can pick up an iOS device and use it without issue and without any kind of training whatsoever. You, on the other hand, sound like someone that is just resistant to change of any kind (even if it's sensible) and who is in their own way so much that it's easier to stay on the same, potentially insecure and outdated systems, buy and return devices regularly, and do all sorts of crazy cartwheels to satisfy some non-existent need. Again, I feel sorry for you. I'm not responding any further but I wish you could get help instead of laying the problem at everyone else's feet talking about "proper" platforms as if there's a single definition for that. You're in the minority.
  - soulofmischief 6y ago
    I'm not resistant to change, you're resistant to the idea that interfaces don't need to change every three years, or that portable computing devices don't need to place freedom in the hands of the user. You're simply playing devil's advocate. > do all sorts of crazy cartwheels to satisfy some non-existent need. OCD is a real thing and is quite debilitating for some. I suggest you read about BFRB's and similar disorders before again blaming me for a physical disorder I have limited control over. Physical therapy only does so much. But that's orthogonal to the fact that I expect a consistent interface on a philosophical level. > Again, I feel sorry for you. I'm not responding any further but I wish you could get help instead of laying the problem at everyone else Is this how you feel about users with tourettes, seeing/hearing/motor disabilities, etc. as well? Do you similarly mock them and blame them for their disorders?
    - dkonofalski 6y ago
      I'm not mocking you for your disorder. Your situation is only partially a result of your OCD. The majority of it is self-imposed because you don't seem to know how to use accessibility features of an OS.

soulofmischief 6y ago

No, that's not what I said. If you want to have this discussion in good faith then let's not mince words. I said a proper platform allows user control and customization over the interface, providing a way for users to continue using interfaces that make sense to them even if some young engineer at Apple finds a clever new way to shove some functionality into a screen gesture. This isn't crazy talk. It's exactly how my Linux-based computer and Android-based phone operate and I've been using the same window manager / launcher for over a decade, while the mainstream default ones like Gnome 3 continue to make the strangest and most anti-user design decisions. I just bought a MIUI phone and if I couldn't flash my own Paranoid Android ROM in the coming weeks I would have to return this phone because the UI is bonkers.

dkonofalski 6y ago
I wasn't responding to that part so I feel like you're the one that's mincing words. I was responding to the part where you said Apple's UI gives you physical anxiety because, as you said, it's "claustrophobic". A literal child can pick up an iOS device and use it without issue and without any kind of training whatsoever. You, on the other hand, sound like someone that is just resistant to change of any kind (even if it's sensible) and who is in their own way so much that it's easier to stay on the same, potentially insecure and outdated systems, buy and return devices regularly, and do all sorts of crazy cartwheels to satisfy some non-existent need. Again, I feel sorry for you. I'm not responding any further but I wish you could get help instead of laying the problem at everyone else's feet talking about "proper" platforms as if there's a single definition for that. You're in the minority.
- soulofmischief 6y ago
  I'm not resistant to change, you're resistant to the idea that interfaces don't need to change every three years, or that portable computing devices don't need to place freedom in the hands of the user. You're simply playing devil's advocate. > do all sorts of crazy cartwheels to satisfy some non-existent need. OCD is a real thing and is quite debilitating for some. I suggest you read about BFRB's and similar disorders before again blaming me for a physical disorder I have limited control over. Physical therapy only does so much. But that's orthogonal to the fact that I expect a consistent interface on a philosophical level. > Again, I feel sorry for you. I'm not responding any further but I wish you could get help instead of laying the problem at everyone else Is this how you feel about users with tourettes, seeing/hearing/motor disabilities, etc. as well? Do you similarly mock them and blame them for their disorders?
  - dkonofalski 6y ago
    I'm not mocking you for your disorder. Your situation is only partially a result of your OCD. The majority of it is self-imposed because you don't seem to know how to use accessibility features of an OS.