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What's interesting is that, humans get to control computers, but computers don't get to control humans. At least computers are not originating thoughts on contr

by poyu 6y ago

What's interesting is that, humans get to control computers, but computers don't get to control humans. At least computers are not originating thoughts on controlling humans yet. So technically we could get in by asking a computer to do it, but not the other way around yet.

jchallis 6y ago
Amazon is trying hard to replace its foremen / women with computers. Maybe AWS will develop a nifty web service that allows all of us to shift people management to software.
- herdodoodo 6y ago
  >foremen / women hey. just wanted to let you know that it's preferable to use forepeople. it's the most inclusive (and concise!).
  - Kye 6y ago
    On the one hand: I agree. Even if I didn't know about nonbinary people, the common "inclusive" constructions like he/she, he/him, -men/-women, and alternating binary are like speed bumps in the flow. They're an ugly hack to avoid using the ancient and already common neutral terms like person or they and its friends them and their. If a person uses these constructs, they admit they don't see "man" as neutral, so that tired old defense doesn't work. They can handle singular they even for known persons. They never protest singular you! "But it's for people of unknown gender!" the protest goes. Well, welcome to the queer experience; they probably don't know either. On the other hand: this was not a good way to promote better phrasing. Your passive voice here--"it's preferable"--suggests it's a Well Known Fact, but it really isn't. Most people have, at best, a vague awareness of the existence of more than two genders, or they're so used to using these awful constructs that they don't realize how obnoxious they are. Acting like your Rare Knowledge is Common Knowledge only works when preaching to the choir. Hacker News is not the choir.
ainiriand 6y ago
Any time you classify traffic lights for a captcha you are doing just that, you are being asked to do something by a robot because it is not so confident about their own results. We are just starting to be the cheap labor of robots.
- Talanes 6y ago
  No, we're being used by other humans because they are not confident in their robots' results.
  - ainiriand 6y ago
    At the end there is always a human. But those images were selected by robots, no human was involved. It was the robot's 'decision'. At least that is my point of view.
decompiled_dev 6y ago
What about when an algorithm shows someone an ad to make them buy something? News feed algorithms control some peoples thinking imo.
eckza 6y ago
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdW71kNANln/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BdW71kNANln/
taneq 6y ago
Isn't that basically what the Mechanical Turk is?

by poyu 6y ago

jchallis 6y ago

Amazon is trying hard to replace its foremen / women with computers. Maybe AWS will develop a nifty web service that allows all of us to shift people management to software.

herdodoodo 6y ago
>foremen / women hey. just wanted to let you know that it's preferable to use forepeople. it's the most inclusive (and concise!).
- Kye 6y ago
  On the one hand: I agree. Even if I didn't know about nonbinary people, the common "inclusive" constructions like he/she, he/him, -men/-women, and alternating binary are like speed bumps in the flow. They're an ugly hack to avoid using the ancient and already common neutral terms like person or they and its friends them and their. If a person uses these constructs, they admit they don't see "man" as neutral, so that tired old defense doesn't work. They can handle singular they even for known persons. They never protest singular you! "But it's for people of unknown gender!" the protest goes. Well, welcome to the queer experience; they probably don't know either. On the other hand: this was not a good way to promote better phrasing. Your passive voice here--"it's preferable"--suggests it's a Well Known Fact, but it really isn't. Most people have, at best, a vague awareness of the existence of more than two genders, or they're so used to using these awful constructs that they don't realize how obnoxious they are. Acting like your Rare Knowledge is Common Knowledge only works when preaching to the choir. Hacker News is not the choir.

ainiriand 6y ago

Any time you classify traffic lights for a captcha you are doing just that, you are being asked to do something by a robot because it is not so confident about their own results. We are just starting to be the cheap labor of robots.

Talanes 6y ago
No, we're being used by other humans because they are not confident in their robots' results.
- ainiriand 6y ago
  At the end there is always a human. But those images were selected by robots, no human was involved. It was the robot's 'decision'. At least that is my point of view.

decompiled_dev 6y ago

What about when an algorithm shows someone an ad to make them buy something? News feed algorithms control some peoples thinking imo.

eckza 6y ago

https://www.instagram.com/p/BdW71kNANln/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BdW71kNANln/

taneq 6y ago

Isn't that basically what the Mechanical Turk is?