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I think it's important to recognize that markets can exist without capitalism, and the position "markets are useful sometimes" doesn't mean that you believe in

I think it's important to recognize that markets can exist without capitalism, and the position "markets are useful sometimes" doesn't mean that you believe in capitalism. Maybe start here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2WH88wmWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2WH88wmWc If you have questions I'd be happy to answer them, but I'd recommend doing more research before making sweeping generalizations about "anarchists", "libertarians", "capitalism", etc.

TaylorAlexander 6y ago
I’ve met Richard Wolff and have read his book Democracy at Work. I’m pretty familiar with his work. I think you’re missing my point. I think left libertarians and socialist anarchists could be allies. They seem to want almost the same thing. They just can’t stand talking to each other because they use terms that make the other extremely skeptical. It’s difficult for me to use precise language when trying to bring two groups together who use that language very differently. So I know I’m speaking in broad terms. Certainly anarchist and libertarian are very broad and not all of them think alike. But I think people who like the idea of anarchist socialism might actually like what certain left libertarians have to say. That is my point. Don’t take my word for it. Check out Roderick Long and you tell me if he makes sense to you. https://youtu.be/t4hjO1ak4_M https://youtu.be/t4hjO1ak4_M
- ChristianBundy 6y ago
  > left libertarians and socialist anarchists What gives you the impression that these are different groups that "could be allies" but "can't stand talking to each other"? Every resource I can find seems to say that social anarchism is a subset of left libertarianism. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism#/media/File:Libertarianism-groups-diagram.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism#/media/Fil...

TaylorAlexander 6y ago

I’ve met Richard Wolff and have read his book Democracy at Work. I’m pretty familiar with his work. I think you’re missing my point. I think left libertarians and socialist anarchists could be allies. They seem to want almost the same thing. They just can’t stand talking to each other because they use terms that make the other extremely skeptical. It’s difficult for me to use precise language when trying to bring two groups together who use that language very differently. So I know I’m speaking in broad terms. Certainly anarchist and libertarian are very broad and not all of them think alike. But I think people who like the idea of anarchist socialism might actually like what certain left libertarians have to say. That is my point. Don’t take my word for it. Check out Roderick Long and you tell me if he makes sense to you. https://youtu.be/t4hjO1ak4_M https://youtu.be/t4hjO1ak4_M

ChristianBundy 6y ago
> left libertarians and socialist anarchists What gives you the impression that these are different groups that "could be allies" but "can't stand talking to each other"? Every resource I can find seems to say that social anarchism is a subset of left libertarianism. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism#/media/File:Libertarianism-groups-diagram.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism#/media/Fil...