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> without worker power, attention on its own doesn't actually do anything I don't think this is true. With enough bad press, it starts to make a difference bot
by _bxg1 6y ago
> without worker power, attention on its own doesn't actually do anything
I don't think this is true. With enough bad press, it starts to make a difference both on the consumer side and the hiring side. I've turned down Amazon recruiters solely based on ethics before, and I haven't held an Amazon Prime membership in years. And I know others who avoid using Amazon unless they really have no other option.
- 0x262d 6y agoI agree this is a real effect - to some degree. But the degree to which it causes them to reform is the level of bad press/taking shortcuts which optimizes profit. Not abusing their workers in factories, well, that's a lot of workers and a lot of money; so far they've found it more profitable to try to buy good press. How long will that continue? I'm not sure, but probably a long time. I would caution people to not rely on that given that Amazon has been known to be pretty bad for quite a while with little reform. Rather than finding some optimum on Amazon's terms, if its employees are sufficiently organized they can force their own terms, although their ability to do that does depend to some degree on public perception of it.
- _bxg1 6y agoI'm just saying it doesn't have to be either/or. Bad press has a real, if currently small, effect. Organization could have a bigger effect but is also harder to accomplish. All avenues should be explored.