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What are the bad working conditions? Someone showed me some petition signed by 8000 Amazon employees, but the petition was mostly about climate change, no bad

by yters 7y ago

What are the bad working conditions? Someone showed me some petition signed by 8000 Amazon employees, but the petition was mostly about climate change, no bad working conditions. Is there somewhere these bad conditions are documented? I think such clear, public documentation would go a long way to changing conditions.

chance_state 7y ago
Do you have access to google.com? https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/inside-the-hellish-workday-of-an-amazon-warehouse-employee/ https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/inside-the-hellish-workday-of-... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/05/amazon-workers-protest-unsafe-grueling-conditions-warehouse https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/05/amazon-wo... https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/11/amazon-warehouse-reports-show-worker-injuries/602530/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/11/amazo... https://time.com/5629233/amazon-warehouse-employee-treatment-robots/ https://time.com/5629233/amazon-warehouse-employee-treatment...
- TomMarius 7y ago
  This would be considered awesome conditions by most people around me (in CZ, EU). It's common to work in horrific warehouses that sometimes don't even have proper thermal/humidity control; having a clean, warm and structured place to work, with OK wage on top of that, is a luxury to them.
  - stonogo 7y ago
    Are you arguing that Amazon workers should not have their working conditions improved or that Czech workers need to unionize too? Or are you arguing that Amazon should move fulfillment centers to Europe?
    - matz1 7y ago
      I think the argument is against the classification of "bad". Its not bad compared to working condition in CZ.
    - TomMarius 6y ago
      Like matz said, this is simply not "bad", it's still way way better than what is normal around the world. Things can and should improve, but calling this bad seems disingenious.
  - lazyasciiart 7y ago
    Many Americans consider their country to be "exceptional" and even those who don't go so far might think that working conditions in the US should have a higher minimum bar than working conditions in countries with a gdp/capita only a third the size.
    - TomMarius 6y ago
      That's the way to go, but still even many other jobs in the USA itself are way worse, so calling this "bad" seems weird.
- agsamek 7y ago
  I read the first link and it is not convincing - reporting after 11 days of work and complaining about 15-20 miles of walking per day. I would say - this sounds awesome for a lot of people who need to go for gym just to keep in any shape. It is just not for everybody. So if somebody can pass a verified (not just googled) link I would appreciate as well.

by yters 7y ago

chance_state 7y ago

Do you have access to google.com? https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/inside-the-hellish-workday-of-an-amazon-warehouse-employee/ https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/inside-the-hellish-workday-of-... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/05/amazon-workers-protest-unsafe-grueling-conditions-warehouse https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/05/amazon-wo... https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/11/amazon-warehouse-reports-show-worker-injuries/602530/ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/11/amazo... https://time.com/5629233/amazon-warehouse-employee-treatment-robots/ https://time.com/5629233/amazon-warehouse-employee-treatment...

TomMarius 7y ago
This would be considered awesome conditions by most people around me (in CZ, EU). It's common to work in horrific warehouses that sometimes don't even have proper thermal/humidity control; having a clean, warm and structured place to work, with OK wage on top of that, is a luxury to them.
- stonogo 7y ago
  Are you arguing that Amazon workers should not have their working conditions improved or that Czech workers need to unionize too? Or are you arguing that Amazon should move fulfillment centers to Europe?
  - matz1 7y ago
    I think the argument is against the classification of "bad". Its not bad compared to working condition in CZ.
  - TomMarius 6y ago
    Like matz said, this is simply not "bad", it's still way way better than what is normal around the world. Things can and should improve, but calling this bad seems disingenious.
- lazyasciiart 7y ago
  Many Americans consider their country to be "exceptional" and even those who don't go so far might think that working conditions in the US should have a higher minimum bar than working conditions in countries with a gdp/capita only a third the size.
  - TomMarius 6y ago
    That's the way to go, but still even many other jobs in the USA itself are way worse, so calling this "bad" seems weird.
agsamek 7y ago
I read the first link and it is not convincing - reporting after 11 days of work and complaining about 15-20 miles of walking per day. I would say - this sounds awesome for a lot of people who need to go for gym just to keep in any shape. It is just not for everybody. So if somebody can pass a verified (not just googled) link I would appreciate as well.