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Don't have time to find the links, but one study indicated that Japan had an excess of 10,000 or more (??) excess suicides per year as a result of its economic
by downerending 6y ago
Don't have time to find the links, but one study indicated that Japan had an excess of 10,000 or more (??) excess suicides per year as a result of its economic downturn in the 90s (?).
And a recent paper in the UK asserted that there have already been 20,000 (??) excess deaths due to people who need cancer screening and treatment not going (or not being able to go) to medical facilities.
Perhaps most tragically, people with stroke symptoms are far less likely to go to the ER in the first critical hours to possibly receive (clot-busting?) medical treatment. Wait a day or two, and it's too late.
My memory on those numbers might be wrong, but if anything, I think they're too low. But these are just for a few cases in a few places. Extrapolate that out to the whole situation, are we're talking about a huge amount of death and suffering caused by the lockdowns.
It's true that many people (like me) are going to stay locked down for months if not years no matter what the government says. That seems like more of an argument for letting up (like Sweden) than locking down harder.
Most importantly is to understand that there is no endgame other than herd immunity. That might be achieved by a vaccine, but many scientists doubt that this will be had soon, if ever. No one is seriously talking about wide-spread vaccination in less than 12-18 months, and even that seems wildly unrealistic. More realistically, we might simply have to "choose" which 70% (or whatever) of the population gets the virus and when. We should choose the young and healthy, and "when" should be pretty soon, if we want to save lives.
In any case, this needs to be studied hard and quickly by lots of boring, disinterested people. We can't just stop with "everyone who wants to loosen the lockdown is a money-grubbing bastard". People are dying.
- triceratops 6y ago> And a recent paper in the UK asserted that there have already been 20,000 (??) excess deaths due to people who need cancer screening and treatment not going (or not being able to go) to medical facilities. Won't letting the virus spread make it even harder for others to access treatment?
- downerending 6y agoDoing this right will certainly take some thought. As long as it's spreading among the "young" (under 60 or so), those people will miss a week of work or two and that will be it. It's protecting the "old" that's going to matter here. Many of them are old enough that screening doesn't matter much anymore. In any case, if we let up on the lockdowns, that would free up a lot of money to pour onto careful protection of the old, which arguably would cut ultimate deaths more than the status quo.