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For many of us, this could be better than ever since instead of being a conference focused on attendees and shared with the rest of us, it'll be designed for sh

For many of us, this could be better than ever since instead of being a conference focused on attendees and shared with the rest of us, it'll be designed for sharing on the web. Be really curious to see how it pans out.

bredren 7y ago
I suspect this could have far reaching effects on how the company thinks about interaction with developers. I’ve never been interested enough to try and get a wwdc ticket, but the content and interaction w Apple employees on a range of topics including UX has been something I’ve wanted.
- duxup 7y ago
  >I suspect this could have far reaching effects on how the company thinks about interaction with developers. It's funny how long this has taken for many areas even outside developers. We see Nintendo with their Nintendo Direct where previously everything was in person press focused, and yet it's SO late in the game for these type things to start as far as the internet is concerned. It seems as the ability to reach out like that was largely limited to just pushing out trailers for ages when clearly it could be done differently. But back to developers, sometimes it feels like in the technology world there's almost a "conference people" and everyone else who doesn't go to conferences with somewhat different ideas and information.
hyperbovine 7y ago
I go to academic conferences, not industry ones, but I find the big annual meetings to be exhausting, unproductive, and incredibly wasteful. I for one will be happy to see them go, if that's what ends up happening.
- RandallBrown 7y ago
  WWDC is exhausting and incredibly wasteful, but it's very productive. Especially if you make use of the labs where they'll actually help you with your code. I've also found that I learned a LOT more about new operating system features when I was attending the conference vs picking and choosing the videos to watch from home. It's also a great way to network and meet up with old friends. I've had a lot of fun the couple times I went to WWDC. I would be sad to see it go, but it wouldn't be the end of the world.
  - coldcode 7y ago
    Yeah the labs were the only benefit any more, otherwise its lots of standing in lines. I went to the "first" WWDC (not called it yet) back in 1986; no mobile devices, so everyone was forced to, gasp, talk with each other. It was tons of fun to hear what other devs were doing, you could learn while standing in line! Plus Apple served us real food, and took us out on trips (in 1986 the whole conference went out on a boat in SF harbor). Last time I went (right before the switch back to San Jose) everyone was looking at their phones or MacBooks and working. It was much harder to engage people in talking.
  - ogre_codes 7y ago
    I agree, but it's a lottery which only fairly wealthy developers can enter. Personally (even if they restore the previous format) I'd prefer to see it oriented towards the online (rest of the planet) world first and the lottery winners second. (And they have made the experience a lot nicer over the past few years!)
  - vaxman 7y ago
    ..especially if you make use of the recruiters. There, fixed it for you. Seriously though, unless you are a game dev or make your own models, note that Apple has a China problem —maybe go DART and Flutter (on VSC) while it gets adjudicated.
matco11 7y ago
Yes... if we can all get WWDC swag! ;-)
ksec 7y ago
And this being Apple, they set the standard in Product Launches and conference across the industry, possibly multi-industry. Their take on Web Conference will hopefully be a guidelines and inspiration for many other Web Conference. ( Which so far looks more like a Video Call )

bredren 7y ago

I suspect this could have far reaching effects on how the company thinks about interaction with developers. I’ve never been interested enough to try and get a wwdc ticket, but the content and interaction w Apple employees on a range of topics including UX has been something I’ve wanted.

duxup 7y ago
>I suspect this could have far reaching effects on how the company thinks about interaction with developers. It's funny how long this has taken for many areas even outside developers. We see Nintendo with their Nintendo Direct where previously everything was in person press focused, and yet it's SO late in the game for these type things to start as far as the internet is concerned. It seems as the ability to reach out like that was largely limited to just pushing out trailers for ages when clearly it could be done differently. But back to developers, sometimes it feels like in the technology world there's almost a "conference people" and everyone else who doesn't go to conferences with somewhat different ideas and information.

hyperbovine 7y ago

I go to academic conferences, not industry ones, but I find the big annual meetings to be exhausting, unproductive, and incredibly wasteful. I for one will be happy to see them go, if that's what ends up happening.

RandallBrown 7y ago
WWDC is exhausting and incredibly wasteful, but it's very productive. Especially if you make use of the labs where they'll actually help you with your code. I've also found that I learned a LOT more about new operating system features when I was attending the conference vs picking and choosing the videos to watch from home. It's also a great way to network and meet up with old friends. I've had a lot of fun the couple times I went to WWDC. I would be sad to see it go, but it wouldn't be the end of the world.
- coldcode 7y ago
  Yeah the labs were the only benefit any more, otherwise its lots of standing in lines. I went to the "first" WWDC (not called it yet) back in 1986; no mobile devices, so everyone was forced to, gasp, talk with each other. It was tons of fun to hear what other devs were doing, you could learn while standing in line! Plus Apple served us real food, and took us out on trips (in 1986 the whole conference went out on a boat in SF harbor). Last time I went (right before the switch back to San Jose) everyone was looking at their phones or MacBooks and working. It was much harder to engage people in talking.
- ogre_codes 7y ago
  I agree, but it's a lottery which only fairly wealthy developers can enter. Personally (even if they restore the previous format) I'd prefer to see it oriented towards the online (rest of the planet) world first and the lottery winners second. (And they have made the experience a lot nicer over the past few years!)
- vaxman 7y ago
  ..especially if you make use of the recruiters. There, fixed it for you. Seriously though, unless you are a game dev or make your own models, note that Apple has a China problem —maybe go DART and Flutter (on VSC) while it gets adjudicated.

matco11 7y ago

Yes... if we can all get WWDC swag! ;-)

ksec 7y ago

And this being Apple, they set the standard in Product Launches and conference across the industry, possibly multi-industry. Their take on Web Conference will hopefully be a guidelines and inspiration for many other Web Conference. ( Which so far looks more like a Video Call )