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Apple will host WWDC virtually, beginning June 22
- aaronbrethorst 6y agoThis is the most 'Apple' statement I've ever read in a press release from Apple: WWDC20 will be our biggest yet, bringing together our global developer community of more than 23 million in an unprecedented way for a week in June to learn about the future of Apple platforms
- Operyl 6y agoI mean, for the first time I think them saying "in an unprecedented way" is really .. true. The "remote" WWDC experience was always kind of meh, so I'm excited to see how it being first is going to be.
- walterbell 6y agoApple copywriter: what's an unprecedented way to use unprecedented?
- Razengan 6y agoWhat about it?
- rvz 6y agoTo be fair, 2010 had the word 'innovation' as the buzzword. For 2020, it is now 'unprecedented' which is quite accurate since the yearly pilgrimage to the Apple Park is cancelled this year.
- saagarjha 6y agoOnly scholarship winners have been able to visit Apple Park, and even that only recently.
- bhupy 6y agoApple's hyperbole can be fun to make fun of, but this is one of the few valid usages of it.
- Ididntdothis 6y agoI still prefer “insanely great”.....
- Coko 6y agoDoes this mean they won't be able to say "WWDC__ will be our biggest yet" anymore (hopefully)?
- aaronbrethorst 6y agoLots of potential versions of "biggest" exist: * Most total viewers (live+in person) * Most number of sessions * Most new features announced * Most operating systems updated
- siruncledrew 6y agoNeeds more use of "courage" IMO
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- ogre_codes 6y agoFor many of us, this could be better than ever since instead of being a conference focused on attendees and shared with the rest of us, it'll be designed for sharing on the web. Be really curious to see how it pans out.
- bredren 6y agoI suspect this could have far reaching effects on how the company thinks about interaction with developers. I’ve never been interested enough to try and get a wwdc ticket, but the content and interaction w Apple employees on a range of topics including UX has been something I’ve wanted.
- duxup 6y ago>I suspect this could have far reaching effects on how the company thinks about interaction with developers. It's funny how long this has taken for many areas even outside developers. We see Nintendo with their Nintendo Direct where previously everything was in person press focused, and yet it's SO late in the game for these type things to start as far as the internet is concerned. It seems as the ability to reach out like that was largely limited to just pushing out trailers for ages when clearly it could be done differently. But back to developers, sometimes it feels like in the technology world there's almost a "conference people" and everyone else who doesn't go to conferences with somewhat different ideas and information.
- hyperbovine 6y agoI go to academic conferences, not industry ones, but I find the big annual meetings to be exhausting, unproductive, and incredibly wasteful. I for one will be happy to see them go, if that's what ends up happening.
- RandallBrown 6y agoWWDC is exhausting and incredibly wasteful, but it's very productive. Especially if you make use of the labs where they'll actually help you with your code. I've also found that I learned a LOT more about new operating system features when I was attending the conference vs picking and choosing the videos to watch from home. It's also a great way to network and meet up with old friends. I've had a lot of fun the couple times I went to WWDC. I would be sad to see it go, but it wouldn't be the end of the world.
- futguy11 6y agoHow much are they going to charge? :)
- samps 6y agoFrom the first sentence of the article: > for free for all developers.
- otachack 6y agoDepends, are you on a Apple device or no? :D I'm leaning towards it being free of charge but we'll see.
- gregkerzhner 6y agoI remember stumbling on some WWDC video a while back and the only way to play it was in Safari.
- ValentineC 6y agoI believe the videos tend to be playable on Microsoft Edge too.
- jamil7 6y agoYeah last time I checked I couldn't play HLS videos in Firefox. Checking wikipedia it looks the same for Chrome but there are extensions available for both browsers.
- derefr 6y agoIt’s not like HLS is not an open standard; Firefox and Chrome just haven’t gotten around to supporting it for some reason. Edge supports it. I believe you can also drop the URL of the HLS manifest into VLC, if you prefer.
- JonathonW 6y agoIt's been a while since you checked, then; Apple's videos play anywhere now (including Chrome and Firefox). I think live streaming even worked in Chrome for 2019, which wasn't the case in some previous years (not sure about Firefox there). That goes for everything on the Apple Developer Videos site, which goes back to WWDC 2014: https://developer.apple.com/videos/all-videos/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/all-videos/
- underdeserver 6y agoWith the event being online, networking (in the meatspace sense) and socializing is more or less out. The only other real benefit of WWDC is the workshops, so that's the big question - how do you set up a workshop, with actual back-and-forth with Apple engineers, when you have 23 million people?
- 5cott0 6y ago>The only other real benefit of WWDC is the workshops I get tons of mileage out of WWDC session videos to this day. Oftentimes poorly documented framework apis are only ever explained in any level of detail in the WWDC videos and examples from whatever particular year it was introduced in.
- underdeserver 6y agoI wasn't clear - I meant the real benefit of attending WWDC in real time, as opposed to just watching the session videos online later.
- jayrhynas 6y ago> Developers are encouraged to download the Apple Developer app where additional WWDC20 program information — including keynote and Platforms State of the Union details, session and lab schedules... Sounds like there's going to be some sort of interactive lab, I wonder what format it will be.
- wprapido 6y agoNetworking is the main reason why I attend conferences
- Operyl 6y agoAt the very least, they're not charging for anything this year. There are no packages, no tickets, etc.
- bredren 6y agoIndividual workshops would have a far lower number. Apple should offer some kind of great, moderated way to ask questions by text, audio and video. Then the educator(s) producers can play it back for everyone to hear or even see the person. Then the educators respond. This is very common on on commercial radio where calls are edited and queued up async from the “live” show. What would be amazing is if the workflow allowed the person being responded to to offer additional live follow on questions or interactivity once they have been “selected.” This could be great, if someone built the right tools for it.
- gokhan 6y agoMicrosoft's Build is also free and online. https://mybuild.microsoft.com/ https://mybuild.microsoft.com/
- salimmadjd 6y agoCurious if there will be any headline announcements. Anyone wants to guesses from that one image in the release what’s Apple key updates might be? Outside of iOS, macOS? There were a lot of speculations with iPhone 11 about Apple’s new U1 chip and what it planned to do with UWB technology. The Apple “tile” was never released. Then there is the new lidar in iPad. I’m curious if we’ll see some new AR update that combines all these into an integrated experience. If there was a time to go big on AR or VR, this lockdown times would be the best time, at least to grab the imaginations of millions locked down in homes.
- 5cott0 6y agoSwiftUI documentation.
- rudedogg 6y agoA credible leak has been that Xcode is coming to iPad (and iOS?). Not sure how I feel about it, I'd prefer more time be spent improving it for Mac use (where, in my opinion, 99% of developers will do their work anyway). My guesses from the software side: - A new game framework, or a massive overhaul to SceneKit. It hasn't seen much love lately, and RealityComposer has a really nice API, but is only for AR. Something new is needed or SceneKit is dead IMO. - SwiftUI will probably see a massive amount of changes. For new controls I think we'll see a collection view and color picker. Hopefully a lot more - it's nice but has a lot of rough edges/hacks currently.
- outworlder 6y ago> A credible leak has been that Xcode is coming to iPad (and iOS?). Not sure how I feel about it, I'd prefer more time be spend on improving it for Mac use (where, in my opinion, 99% of developers will do their work anyway). This would be a good step into making the iPad an actual productivity device.
- cactus2093 6y agoIf they also added a linux VM on the iPad, that would be the real game changer for being able to do programming on it IMO.
- mjayhn 6y agoSo are these rumors about apple coming out with a PAAS/workload system that I've been hearing for 2-3 years starting to turn true? They've started hiring a lot of kubernetes engineers and afaik they were a mesosphere shop until evidently recently (judging by the hires I'm seeing). Curious to see if they contribute upstream.
- thefounder 6y agoSurely that PAAS will work only on MacOS, iOS and warchOS. All that amazing technology for just $50,000 license. Exactly like WebObjects!
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- outworlder 6y ago> They've started hiring a lot of kubernetes engineers Isn't that for their internal systems? This is how most companies use K8s anyway.
- mjayhn 6y agoIt's possible, but they're trying to hire some public-facing k8s engineers which makes me believe there is actually some veracity to that PAAS claim. If they're going to offer an "Apple Cloud" or something they're going to need public facing (conferences etc) engineers to convince other engineers to use the product. On the flip side I thought this was all a complete joke and a goofy rumor and would never happen until the last month where I saw a good portion of my twitter peers (k8s architects) talking about going to Apple, but as you said it could be for internal systems. I mean, honestly, I still think it's a pie in the sky rumor but maybe a little birdie will chirp.
- jamil7 6y agoWe might get lucky, they did upstream work to LLVM in the past.
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- ilyas121 6y agoDoes this mean free virtual workshops, or is that just for people who bought tickets?
- GavinAnderegg 6y agoApple hasn't put tickets up for sale, and they mention in the article that WWDC will be "free for all developers". I'm assuming there will be some answer to one-on-one reviews, though. Perhaps if you've got a paid Apple developer account, you might be able to put in a request to connect with someone?
- pkaye 6y agoI wonder if they will keep doing it online in the future. Imagine the impact to all the workers who facilitate these conferences, local hotels, restaurants, etc.
- philwelch 6y agoThose jobs aren’t coming back for awhile yet, regardless.
- 5cott0 6y agoRumor has it Apple is launching MaskKit, the framework for customizing Animoji surgical masks.
- BigBalli 6y agoI used to attend WWDC ever since the iPhone was announced. These past years, given all the content was available immediately online, I didn't see the point in attending in person (unless for some reason you needed office hours to figure something out). I've been seeing more like a badge of honor for fresh devs.