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How are individuals identified? It's one thing to have street-level cameras, but something else entirely when it's a plane flying at 10,000 feet. Perhaps I'm na

How are individuals identified? It's one thing to have street-level cameras, but something else entirely when it's a plane flying at 10,000 feet. Perhaps I'm naive, but it seems like it would be extremely difficult to accurately identify a person that way (barring NSA/CIA/military level technology and sophistication). What am I missing? Even with my doubts, I'm extremely opposed to such surveillance!

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
Would a demo of what is possible at 4000 feet suffice? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L80HDdS7Wg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L80HDdS7Wg (4min33sec) Or what was state of the art at DARPA in 2013? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA (4min40sec) Edit: Or more commonly available, just search for "Nikon Superzoom" on youtube, and watch some short demos there. And then imagine those pointed in all directions downwards, the videostream(s) saved to some small storage array, or even transmitted live to some ground station(s), indexed and overlaid on something like google maps, just better, with a time slider. Mark some car at some point (in time) and see where it moves...and so on. Edit: like THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSeU-OnI8E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSeU-OnI8E (3min13sec) Edit: Oh! And something from 2016 about "The Surveillance Firm Recording Crimes From Baltimore's Skies" (7min29sec) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRa-AucbN6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRa-AucbN6k Another demo of the same thing from the same person/company in another town, also 2016: "The Eyes in the Sky That Catch Murders on Tape" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLr0KMsRAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLr0KMsRAA (5min) So why is this news?
- neverartful 6y ago
  Thanks for providing the links. Despite the impressive cameras and processing capabilities to go with them, I believe that it would be simple to counter. Adding any of baseball caps or other hats, sunglasses, jackets, face mask, or gloves should make it far more difficult to identify a person. Carry a backpack of accessories and change them to further confuse. A person can make their movements harder to track by traveling non-direct routes, back-tracking, and moving in and out of buildings. The bigger problem is that ordinary citizens shouldn't be under that kind of surveillance EVER. It's good to have these things brought to light and discussed (especially the downsides and all potential for abuse).
  - LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
    There is this thing called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gait_analysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gait_analysis and how it is applied https://www.businessinsider.de/international/ai-training-beyond-facial-recognition-gait-detection-heartbeat-sensors-2019-10/ https://www.businessinsider.de/international/ai-training-bey...

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago

Would a demo of what is possible at 4000 feet suffice? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L80HDdS7Wg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L80HDdS7Wg (4min33sec) Or what was state of the art at DARPA in 2013? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA (4min40sec) Edit: Or more commonly available, just search for "Nikon Superzoom" on youtube, and watch some short demos there. And then imagine those pointed in all directions downwards, the videostream(s) saved to some small storage array, or even transmitted live to some ground station(s), indexed and overlaid on something like google maps, just better, with a time slider. Mark some car at some point (in time) and see where it moves...and so on. Edit: like THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSeU-OnI8E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptSeU-OnI8E (3min13sec) Edit: Oh! And something from 2016 about "The Surveillance Firm Recording Crimes From Baltimore's Skies" (7min29sec) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRa-AucbN6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRa-AucbN6k Another demo of the same thing from the same person/company in another town, also 2016: "The Eyes in the Sky That Catch Murders on Tape" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLr0KMsRAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJLr0KMsRAA (5min) So why is this news?

neverartful 6y ago
Thanks for providing the links. Despite the impressive cameras and processing capabilities to go with them, I believe that it would be simple to counter. Adding any of baseball caps or other hats, sunglasses, jackets, face mask, or gloves should make it far more difficult to identify a person. Carry a backpack of accessories and change them to further confuse. A person can make their movements harder to track by traveling non-direct routes, back-tracking, and moving in and out of buildings. The bigger problem is that ordinary citizens shouldn't be under that kind of surveillance EVER. It's good to have these things brought to light and discussed (especially the downsides and all potential for abuse).
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
  There is this thing called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gait_analysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gait_analysis and how it is applied https://www.businessinsider.de/international/ai-training-beyond-facial-recognition-gait-detection-heartbeat-sensors-2019-10/ https://www.businessinsider.de/international/ai-training-bey...