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> you will see that Apple does keep track of at least some of your location history That's not Apple keeping the data, that's your phone keeping the data. And
by djrogers 7y ago
> you will see that Apple does keep track of at least some of your location history
That's not Apple keeping the data, that's your phone keeping the data. And that data isn't accessible to Apple - only you and your device.
From page 6 of https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/Location_Services_White_Paper_Nov_2019.pdf https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/Location_Services_White_P...
"This data is not shared with third parties, is fully encrypted, and can’t be read by Apple."
- encom 7y agoThat claim is worthless when the software is closed source. It's impossible to verify.
- donarb 7y agoActually the claim is worth a big payday if you can prove Apple lied. One leak of customer data and Apple is screwed.
- encom 7y ago>One leak of customer data and Apple is screwed. Yes, the Equifax incident really showed us how data leaks ruin companies.
- lucasmullens 7y agoClaims aren't worthless, they'd be breaking the law if they lied. Apple has a pretty decent incentive to not break the law (PR mostly, but also fines), so I would bet they're telling the truth here.
- cambalache 7y agoAnd as we all know, and history shows, those incentives ensure corporations never break the law.
- thekyle 7y agoIf security researchers couldn't audit closed source software they would be pretty rubbish at their jobs. It's a lot easier to audit open source of course, but researchers do reverse engineer closed source stuff all the time.
- azinman2 7y agoWell you can always look at the network packets, most easily accomplished from jailbroken devices. There are many people who look at such matters. It's far from worthless.
- realharo 7y agoCan't Apple push silent code updates to specific phones? That would mean they can access that data whenever they choose to. Even if they don't do it right now, they retain that ability.