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As long as the primary motivator remains profit, rather than increasing the averages person Quality of life, technology will be used to replace people to their

As long as the primary motivator remains profit, rather than increasing the averages person Quality of life, technology will be used to replace people to their detriment, rather than to their advantage. I'm sorry I have no good reason for you why you shouldn't be depressed. I'm afraid, depression might be the appropriate reaction to the state of things.

ethanwillis 6y ago
Even if profit is removed technology will still remain and shackle producers to production lines for the benefit of others by stripping away the autonomy of every individual though. I don't think it's just "profit" that's the problem.
- cyborgx7 6y ago
  >shackle producers to production lines for the benefit of others so, for profit?
  - ethanwillis 6y ago
    Whether you provide all of the basic needs for a man and he farms for others, or whether you provide him a wage.. it's all the same in the sense of removing his autonomy. You'll notice from the writer's essay that he started to become "more happy" when he was able to exercise some autonomy without all of the pressure.
tonyedgecombe 6y ago
I'm afraid, depression might be the appropriate reaction to the state of things. The trouble with modern work is it's so intangible, there is no physical product at the end, no machine restored to working order, no field ploughed, just a pile of bits shifted around. I keep saying it here, I think for most of us we would be better off dropping the side projects and instead doing something with our hands. It might be baking bread, playing with Lego, woodwork, DIY, anything away from the keyboard.
- cyborgx7 6y ago
  Alienation from the product of your labor existed before digitalization as well.
  - Insanity 6y ago
    If I'm not mistaken it was Marx who said that people would be alienated from their product as they could not own the product created by their labor. So yeah, well before 'digitalization' but after industrialization I suppose. Hence we'd have to go back in time quite a bit (at least in Europe) to be pre-industrialized to not be distant from the product of labor.
    - cyborgx7 6y ago
      Marx was not a Luddite.

ethanwillis 6y ago

Even if profit is removed technology will still remain and shackle producers to production lines for the benefit of others by stripping away the autonomy of every individual though. I don't think it's just "profit" that's the problem.

cyborgx7 6y ago
>shackle producers to production lines for the benefit of others so, for profit?
- ethanwillis 6y ago
  Whether you provide all of the basic needs for a man and he farms for others, or whether you provide him a wage.. it's all the same in the sense of removing his autonomy. You'll notice from the writer's essay that he started to become "more happy" when he was able to exercise some autonomy without all of the pressure.

tonyedgecombe 6y ago

I'm afraid, depression might be the appropriate reaction to the state of things. The trouble with modern work is it's so intangible, there is no physical product at the end, no machine restored to working order, no field ploughed, just a pile of bits shifted around. I keep saying it here, I think for most of us we would be better off dropping the side projects and instead doing something with our hands. It might be baking bread, playing with Lego, woodwork, DIY, anything away from the keyboard.

cyborgx7 6y ago
Alienation from the product of your labor existed before digitalization as well.
- Insanity 6y ago
  If I'm not mistaken it was Marx who said that people would be alienated from their product as they could not own the product created by their labor. So yeah, well before 'digitalization' but after industrialization I suppose. Hence we'd have to go back in time quite a bit (at least in Europe) to be pre-industrialized to not be distant from the product of labor.
  - cyborgx7 6y ago
    Marx was not a Luddite.