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30 millions jobs lost and counting. 70,000 deaths in the US alone. No international cooperation. No organized plan to contain the pandemic, or even demonstrate

30 millions jobs lost and counting. 70,000 deaths in the US alone. No international cooperation. No organized plan to contain the pandemic, or even demonstrate confidence. to the markets. The endless stream of scandals before that can only be dismissed if you buy into the endless propaganda machine. The world is not better by any measure.

cglace 6y ago
I don’t know why you are trying to convince me or why you think providing figures will change the fact that a large portion of the country feels one way. You can’t argue your way out of that fact.
- viscoelastic 6y ago
  I'm not, my reply wasn't meant for you. I think that deceptive propaganda like yours shouldn't go unchallenged or else it seems like it has more credibility than it deserves in the eyes passersby on forums like this.
  - cglace 6y ago
    As a person that does not support Trump I find it hard to believe that I am creating deceptive propaganda. However, I will fix it for you, zero percent of the US supports Trump or believes he has made the country a better place. There is a zero percent chance he will win the next election. Is that the delutional propoganda you prefer?
naasking 6y ago
> The world is not better by any measure Strictly speaking, that's not true. The world is now aware of how painfully unprepared we are for cataclysmic events, like pandemics. The world now also knows how dangerous China is due to the dangers of offshore supply chains, the disinformation they spread which endangered lives, and the dangerously strong influence they have over the WHO. These are all good things and we're better off knowing them.
- viscoelastic 6y ago
  We've known all this before and could have done something about it if there was a collective political will more mature than that of self obsessed child. There is no logical link between willfully making our own government incompetent and corrupt just so we can realize how unprepared we are. That sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy.
  - naasking 6y ago
    > We've known all this before Maybe you've known it. The people at large did not and now they do. Anti-China policy was often viewed as racist. Don't underestimate the power of common knowledge to influence the political winds.

cglace 6y ago

I don’t know why you are trying to convince me or why you think providing figures will change the fact that a large portion of the country feels one way. You can’t argue your way out of that fact.

viscoelastic 6y ago
I'm not, my reply wasn't meant for you. I think that deceptive propaganda like yours shouldn't go unchallenged or else it seems like it has more credibility than it deserves in the eyes passersby on forums like this.
- cglace 6y ago
  As a person that does not support Trump I find it hard to believe that I am creating deceptive propaganda. However, I will fix it for you, zero percent of the US supports Trump or believes he has made the country a better place. There is a zero percent chance he will win the next election. Is that the delutional propoganda you prefer?

naasking 6y ago

> The world is not better by any measure Strictly speaking, that's not true. The world is now aware of how painfully unprepared we are for cataclysmic events, like pandemics. The world now also knows how dangerous China is due to the dangers of offshore supply chains, the disinformation they spread which endangered lives, and the dangerously strong influence they have over the WHO. These are all good things and we're better off knowing them.

viscoelastic 6y ago
We've known all this before and could have done something about it if there was a collective political will more mature than that of self obsessed child. There is no logical link between willfully making our own government incompetent and corrupt just so we can realize how unprepared we are. That sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy.
- naasking 6y ago
  > We've known all this before Maybe you've known it. The people at large did not and now they do. Anti-China policy was often viewed as racist. Don't underestimate the power of common knowledge to influence the political winds.