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> oracle database is dying an its niche is shrinking. This is true, but misleadingly not the whole truth. On prem RDBMS is dying and its niche shrinking (at le

> oracle database is dying an its niche is shrinking. This is true, but misleadingly not the whole truth. On prem RDBMS is dying and its niche shrinking (at least in this part of the cycle)... having said that, Oracle cloud offerings are doing very well. Amazon made a herculean effort, and made some headlines when they migrated most of the business off Oracle last year. That's wonderful, for Amazon. Most of Oracle's enterprise customers are not Amazon. > I'd also prefer a galera or an innodb cluster The thing is.. Oracle sells so much more than just an DB engine, and people are buying. Oracle RDBMS is not an inferior product to open source competitors, in most ways superior, and yet, it is really just a proverbial loss leader.

thda 6y ago
> Oracle RDBMS is not an inferior product to open source competitors, in most ways superior It is also in a lots of extremely critical ways inferior. The huge complexity, the huge footprint, the humongous prices are enough to justify staying far away from it.
- tomnipotent 6y ago
  Oracle DB is not intended for WordPress and RoR web apps. It's an entirely different beast of an offering, and if your business is in need of what it can do than by this point the "huge complexity" is nothing compared to what your organization is probably already dealing with. When you have thousands of engineers, "complexity" is very subjective.
ntsplnkv2 6y ago
I mean, a company with as much data as Amazon leaving is a pretty big deal and obviously is in the news. Are Oracle cloud offerings actually doing well? What evidence is there of this?
- catblast 6y ago
  They’re a publicly traded company, this is readily available information. Sure the growth is not a hockey stick, but they’re not exactly dying either. The way people talk on here you’d think they’re filing for bankruptcy tomorrow.
  - ntsplnkv2 6y ago
    Which is about what you expect - Oracle has a sizeable legacy business with which they can exploit. But are they really winning new business without subsidy?

thda 6y ago

> Oracle RDBMS is not an inferior product to open source competitors, in most ways superior It is also in a lots of extremely critical ways inferior. The huge complexity, the huge footprint, the humongous prices are enough to justify staying far away from it.

tomnipotent 6y ago
Oracle DB is not intended for WordPress and RoR web apps. It's an entirely different beast of an offering, and if your business is in need of what it can do than by this point the "huge complexity" is nothing compared to what your organization is probably already dealing with. When you have thousands of engineers, "complexity" is very subjective.

ntsplnkv2 6y ago

I mean, a company with as much data as Amazon leaving is a pretty big deal and obviously is in the news. Are Oracle cloud offerings actually doing well? What evidence is there of this?

catblast 6y ago
They’re a publicly traded company, this is readily available information. Sure the growth is not a hockey stick, but they’re not exactly dying either. The way people talk on here you’d think they’re filing for bankruptcy tomorrow.
- ntsplnkv2 6y ago
  Which is about what you expect - Oracle has a sizeable legacy business with which they can exploit. But are they really winning new business without subsidy?