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Racism is the systemic discrimination against a race -- ie, there may be systems in place that cause a particular race to be disadvantaged, even if those system

Racism is the systemic discrimination against a race -- ie, there may be systems in place that cause a particular race to be disadvantaged, even if those systems aren't consciously put there by anyone. For example, post redlining, many cities still have economically depressed areas that correlate with race. The policies that caused the issue are largely gone, but the systems created by them remain. (Systems, in this context can mean both formalized systems, e.g. welfare systems, and de facto systems, e.g. wealth inequality, incarceration rates, and prejudice). Applied to employment decisions, there may be any number of factors that were not directly discussed as reasons to fire someone, but still impacted the firing decision. People may be unconsciously biased, there may be fundamental attribution errors applied because the person is in an outgroup, etc.

Udik 7y ago
> there may be any number of factors that were not directly discussed as reasons to fire someone, but still impacted the firing decision. People may be unconsciously biased... Sure. However this contradicts what you wrote earlier: >> If the firings disproportionately or systemically impact races or genders, the firings can be racist/sexist -- even if race or gender is not involved in the firing decision. (italics mine) If race or gender is not involved in the firing decision, consciously or unconsciously, why would it be racist or sexist? The fact it disproportionally involve a group however identified (say, all vegans declare an illegal strike for veganism, and they're fired because of this) cannot be construed as a form of discrimination towards that group.
viklove 7y ago
Minor correction, racism does not have to be systemic in order to qualify as racism: > prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior

Udik 7y ago

> there may be any number of factors that were not directly discussed as reasons to fire someone, but still impacted the firing decision. People may be unconsciously biased... Sure. However this contradicts what you wrote earlier: >> If the firings disproportionately or systemically impact races or genders, the firings can be racist/sexist -- even if race or gender is not involved in the firing decision. (italics mine) If race or gender is not involved in the firing decision, consciously or unconsciously, why would it be racist or sexist? The fact it disproportionally involve a group however identified (say, all vegans declare an illegal strike for veganism, and they're fired because of this) cannot be construed as a form of discrimination towards that group.

viklove 7y ago

Minor correction, racism does not have to be systemic in order to qualify as racism: > prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior