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"The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race." Ted Kaczynski would roughly say that Big becomes evil because Big mea
by ethanwillis 6y ago
"The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race."
Ted Kaczynski would roughly say that Big becomes evil because Big means standardization. If you have a large corporation you need to standardize processes in order to be efficient enough to justify your existence. This is directly at odds with individual dignity and autonomy.
Specifically see 111. onwards of Industrial Society and Its Future.
- gassius 6y agoNot to fail in an ad hominem but I kinda give low value to the thinking of the Unabomber
- busterarm 6y agoHe had a BA from Harvard and a PhD in Mathematics. He was the victim of 200 hours of brutal psychological experimentation by Henry Murray. It turns out you can torture people past their breaking point and they may not recover. It also turns out that doing this to people with greater-than-average intelligence can have proportionally greater-than-average consequences.
- qpooqpoo 6y ago"200 hours of brutal psychological experimentation" This is a conspiracy theory and a myth.
- busterarm 6y agoNo it isn't. They were stress experiments and the goal was to humiliate him to see what his limits were and they're on the record. The (often claimed) part of the story that's conspiracy theory is that the experiments are tied to MKULTRA, which I didn't claim at all, because there's no evidence of that. If anything's a conspiracy theory, it's that the entirety of your comment history on Hacker News, spanning 2 years is to post solely on the topic of the Unabomber, and that you do the same thing on Reddit.
- ethanwillis 6y agoWhen I checked the comment history after reading that last line I couldn't believe my eyes. I wonder if Dang considers it astroturfing if an intelligence agency does it? (edit: joke, but it is weird that your comment history is nothing but about Ted). And for those of you who are wondering if the psych. experiments are real or not: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard-and-the-making-of-the-unabomber/378239/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/06/harvard...
- busterarm 6y agoThey've even suggested wikipedia edits on his page that were rejected. Single-issue posters in general are hard to deal with as far as community & discussion, but this is just weird. I'm genuinely worried here.
- ethanwillis 6y agoIt's strange that they suggest the alternate books at the same time. I just want to understand the agenda.
- busterarm 6y agoIf you look at the reddit posts you'll see more of the same and in a number of boards. Deeper searches of the name turn up alt-right memes (triple ellipses, ok hand gestures) via car message boards. I'm assuming accelerationist?
- qpooqpoo 6y agoWhat are you worried about? A debate about facts on a controversial topic with someone who is interested in it? Why does everyone here seem so timid and silly? Is it really necessary to get your panties in a bundle about someone interested in this controversy? Do you find it....disturbing? lol.
- qpooqpoo 6y agoThis constitutes the "proof" that Kaczynski was somehow lastingly affected by the study? A writers theory in a book? The problem with that is that I can just as well present evidence that the book is completely inaccurate: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/09/letters/378379/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/09/letters... Why would an intelligence agency do what I'm doing? What would they have to gain by posting this?? I'm trying to understand the humor, please help me.
- qpooqpoo 6y ago"Not to fail in an ad hominem" You mean TO fail in an ad hominem.
- qpooqpoo 6y agoYes, this is more or less correct. You should absolutely read Kaczynski's two books as well, "Technological Slavery" and "Anti-Tech Revolution."