Interesting - hadn't considered that idea. I associate vegan diets with the desire for a more optimal diet (thus healthier). The point was not really one critic

Interesting - hadn't considered that idea. I associate vegan diets with the desire for a more optimal diet (thus healthier). The point was not really one criticizing vegans. I think it is very possible today to be plant based and have a rich and health diet. What I was pointing out is that I've noticed a slippery debate tactic where a proponent of one diet will put forth nutrient rich food on their side and "Big Mac" quality food on the opponent's side.