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It really stuns me how “MacOS” doesn’t appear anywhere in the Pros (or the Cons). That’s literally the main discriminant between choosing an Apple machine over

by qubex 7y ago

It really stuns me how “MacOS” doesn’t appear anywhere in the Pros (or the Cons). That’s literally the main discriminant between choosing an Apple machine over any other brand, and there’s no mention of it. By missing that main difference the comparison is reduced to pure comparison of commodities, and of course the result is that the Apple machine is ‘unjustifiably’ more expensive. The Apple ecosystem is literally why people buy Apple machines rather than any other brand. I’m also mystified nobody else brought this up.

philwelch 7y ago
At this point macOS is just a different list of pros and cons all by itself.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Often a different list for each person.
- fredguth 7y ago
  For me it is still the best OS experience by far.
everdrive 7y ago
MacOS has really stagnated over the years. I first started using it back in 2004, where its main competitor was pre-SP2 Windows XP. At that time you could really call MacOS advanced. At this point, it's sort of a wash. Windows does things better, Mac does other things better, and it mostly comes down to preference. The old argument about security is mostly a wash now as well. (whereas with pre-SP2 Windows XP vs. OSX 10.4, you could legitimately claim that OSX was more secure.)
- mekster 7y ago
  Back then, MacOS X didn't have enough third party apps to replace Windows workflow but the OS kept advancing on every release. Now we have better third party apps on macOS than Windows but OS stopped advancing but who cares about OS anymore? It's all about apps nowadays.
  - vbezhenar 7y ago
    My apps on Windows: KeePass, Chrome, Thunderbird, Putty, Oracle VM, Idea, EditPad Pro, Paint.NET, Battle.net, Discord, foobar2000. My apps on macOS: Chrome, Thunderbird, OracleVM, Idea, Battle.net, Discord. Can replace Putty with Terminal ssh (I like Putty more, but that's not a big deal), can replace KeePass with text file (less security, but not a big deal either), can replace EditPad Pro with TextEdit (worse replacement, but I can live with it), can replace Paint.NET with Gimp. Not sure about foobar2000, may be DeadBeef. And there's no software on macOS that I would miss in Windows. So that's questionable about third-party apps, at least for me. The only thing that I loved in macOS is its Terminal, because I know bash, but recently I learned a bit of PowerShell, so it's not a big advantage anymore. Also I can always spin up CentOS VM if necessary.
    - checker 7y ago
      If you just want a unix shell this is going to be way lighter than a full-blown VM: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#1-overview https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#1-ov...
  - everdrive 7y ago
    A fair opinion for some, but if there is still more application support on Windows, I don't see how this is a benefit to MacOS.

by qubex 7y ago

philwelch 7y ago

At this point macOS is just a different list of pros and cons all by itself.

saagarjha 7y ago
Often a different list for each person.
fredguth 7y ago
For me it is still the best OS experience by far.

everdrive 7y ago

MacOS has really stagnated over the years. I first started using it back in 2004, where its main competitor was pre-SP2 Windows XP. At that time you could really call MacOS advanced. At this point, it's sort of a wash. Windows does things better, Mac does other things better, and it mostly comes down to preference. The old argument about security is mostly a wash now as well. (whereas with pre-SP2 Windows XP vs. OSX 10.4, you could legitimately claim that OSX was more secure.)

mekster 7y ago
Back then, MacOS X didn't have enough third party apps to replace Windows workflow but the OS kept advancing on every release. Now we have better third party apps on macOS than Windows but OS stopped advancing but who cares about OS anymore? It's all about apps nowadays.
- vbezhenar 7y ago
  My apps on Windows: KeePass, Chrome, Thunderbird, Putty, Oracle VM, Idea, EditPad Pro, Paint.NET, Battle.net, Discord, foobar2000. My apps on macOS: Chrome, Thunderbird, OracleVM, Idea, Battle.net, Discord. Can replace Putty with Terminal ssh (I like Putty more, but that's not a big deal), can replace KeePass with text file (less security, but not a big deal either), can replace EditPad Pro with TextEdit (worse replacement, but I can live with it), can replace Paint.NET with Gimp. Not sure about foobar2000, may be DeadBeef. And there's no software on macOS that I would miss in Windows. So that's questionable about third-party apps, at least for me. The only thing that I loved in macOS is its Terminal, because I know bash, but recently I learned a bit of PowerShell, so it's not a big advantage anymore. Also I can always spin up CentOS VM if necessary.
  - checker 7y ago
    If you just want a unix shell this is going to be way lighter than a full-blown VM: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#1-overview https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows#1-ov...
- everdrive 7y ago
  A fair opinion for some, but if there is still more application support on Windows, I don't see how this is a benefit to MacOS.