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Thankfully no "high pay" labor ever just takes pure advantage of the environment (e.g., stealing product, stealing time, etc) ;) And never at great cost for a p

Thankfully no "high pay" labor ever just takes pure advantage of the environment (e.g., stealing product, stealing time, etc) ;) And never at great cost for a period of time before it is discovered. Pay might be a factor. I think people are people, and their behavior and beliefs vary.

supergeek133 6y ago
I completely agree, but we, as a society tend to look down more on the low paid people who do this versus the high paid ones.
- yters 6y ago
  Exactly, and the high paid thieves are those who can wreck the lives of millions vs the low paid thieves take an infinitesimal bit away from the bottom line of a multi billion dollar company.
  - banads 6y ago
    "We hang the petty thieves, and appoint the great ones to public office" -Aesop
    - yters 6y ago
      Hanging the petty thieves satisfies the crowds that are unhappy because the great thieves are robbing them blind.
  - supergeek133 6y ago
    Death by a thousand cuts. It is just front of mind. People "see" the low paid thieves and their impact on themselves and others on a semi regular basis. The once in awhile "white collar crime" you might see if you turn on the news isn't top of mind. "That guy stole $5 from ME" versus "Wal Mart uses welfare as a way to get corporate welfare and pay their employees less" One is in the moment, and a purely emotional and potentially traumatizing experience based on circumstance. One I may not even experience (e.g., I don't work at Wal-Mart).
    - johnmaguire2013 6y ago
      The higher paid thief and the lower paid thief both steal from their companies (both of which are owned by people). Yet the higher paid thief is afforded more privilege and trust and respect. Do you see the problem yet?
      - supergeek133 6y ago
        I'm agreeing with you, but I'm putting a reality spin on it. It's OK to have macro views, but you can't change anything without understanding psychology of the two scenarios for the average person.
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- madeofpalk 6y ago
  yes, that's the whole point about privilege.
Aunche 6y ago
Anecdotally, my friends in finance say that their chats are monitored with extreme scrutiny. You'll be written up for anything that can be perceived as screwing over your clients, even if it's an obvious joke. If this happened in any other sector, society would be quick to call this draconian. However, few people are aware of this form of micromanaging, and if they do, they recognize that it must be done. As for people stealing time, Amazon puts people on PIP all the time.
- three_seagrass 6y ago
  >If this happened in any other sector, society would be quick to call this draconian. Believe it or not, finance is under extra scrutiny. That company has to log all chat messages in order to keep their FINRA certification, but that also means a court can subpoena and display the messages in a public trial. If they're a serious shop they will monitor and keep comms clean to the point of being Orwellian.

supergeek133 6y ago

I completely agree, but we, as a society tend to look down more on the low paid people who do this versus the high paid ones.

yters 6y ago
Exactly, and the high paid thieves are those who can wreck the lives of millions vs the low paid thieves take an infinitesimal bit away from the bottom line of a multi billion dollar company.
- banads 6y ago
  "We hang the petty thieves, and appoint the great ones to public office" -Aesop
  - yters 6y ago
    Hanging the petty thieves satisfies the crowds that are unhappy because the great thieves are robbing them blind.
- supergeek133 6y ago
  Death by a thousand cuts. It is just front of mind. People "see" the low paid thieves and their impact on themselves and others on a semi regular basis. The once in awhile "white collar crime" you might see if you turn on the news isn't top of mind. "That guy stole $5 from ME" versus "Wal Mart uses welfare as a way to get corporate welfare and pay their employees less" One is in the moment, and a purely emotional and potentially traumatizing experience based on circumstance. One I may not even experience (e.g., I don't work at Wal-Mart).
  - johnmaguire2013 6y ago
    The higher paid thief and the lower paid thief both steal from their companies (both of which are owned by people). Yet the higher paid thief is afforded more privilege and trust and respect. Do you see the problem yet?
    - supergeek133 6y ago
      I'm agreeing with you, but I'm putting a reality spin on it. It's OK to have macro views, but you can't change anything without understanding psychology of the two scenarios for the average person.
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madeofpalk 6y ago
yes, that's the whole point about privilege.

Aunche 6y ago

Anecdotally, my friends in finance say that their chats are monitored with extreme scrutiny. You'll be written up for anything that can be perceived as screwing over your clients, even if it's an obvious joke. If this happened in any other sector, society would be quick to call this draconian. However, few people are aware of this form of micromanaging, and if they do, they recognize that it must be done. As for people stealing time, Amazon puts people on PIP all the time.

three_seagrass 6y ago
>If this happened in any other sector, society would be quick to call this draconian. Believe it or not, finance is under extra scrutiny. That company has to log all chat messages in order to keep their FINRA certification, but that also means a court can subpoena and display the messages in a public trial. If they're a serious shop they will monitor and keep comms clean to the point of being Orwellian.