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I’m curious which FAANG you worked at that strongly discouraged WFH. I’ve worked at two now, including the one that’s sort of notorious for treating employees t

I’m curious which FAANG you worked at that strongly discouraged WFH. I’ve worked at two now, including the one that’s sort of notorious for treating employees terribly, and both of them were fine with WFH when necessary. I sort of got the sense that they were all more or less OK with it.

pgm8705 7y ago
My guess is Apple.
- starpilot 7y ago
  People only say FAANG instead of FANG if it's Apple. Otherwise I could only see it as Amazon. But Amazon had people WFH almost immediately, since being here in Seattle it was the start of the outbreak in the US.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    > People only say FAANG instead of FANG if it's Apple. I don't think this is true. Actually, most people would like to replace "N" with "M" in that acronym, but then it sounds much worse…
    - nostrademons 7y ago
      I'm partial to "MAGA" as the initialism for the top 4 tech companies by market cap (Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple). Facebook and Netflix are a tier below in market cap and size, and it also makes it clear who's really making America great again...
      - WorldMaker 7y ago
        I've seen GAFAM a lot, and that's the one I tend to favor. MAFANG (maybe?) if you really want to get Netflix in there? I know some people especially in the Bay Area think Netflix is important in the acronym not necessarily by market cap, but overall head count versus turnover and thus cultural swing (policies like "unlimited vacation" that started at Netflix and then in turn influenced a lot of other surrounding Bay Area companies).
CydeWeys 7y ago
It could easily be Google.
- tibiahurried 7y ago
  More Apple than Google. But yes, general speaking, the best you can hope for is one day WFH.
kleinsch 7y ago
I work at a FAANG. They’re OK with you working from home 1-2 days/week to run errands, etc, but not OK with 100% WFH except rare exceptions (usually people who have been at the company a while before moving). That may be what OP means. I’ll be curious to see if fully remote becomes more of a possibility based on how the next few months go.
- acituan 7y ago
  That changes wildly from team to team. I worked for one team where there was a set WFH day of the week. I had another team where 11am standup meetings were held everyday, and this was mostly for the benefit of the people manage who was very technically disinterested in what’s going on but wanted to enforce “coherence”, needless to say WFH was impossible. In another team, manager wasn’t comfortable allowing WFH because “it would create inequality between engineers” i.e he was just afraid of making a judgement call. Finally, had a team where manager would WFH 1-3 times a week himself and was actually the best manager of all in terms of being on top of things. The sentiment that this is heavily dependent on manager competence is correct IMHO.
cameronbrown 7y ago
It could be any. All FAANGs have their subcultures.
saagarjha 7y ago
Sounds very much like the company which spent recently spent $5 billion on suburban open offices.

pgm8705 7y ago

My guess is Apple.

starpilot 7y ago
People only say FAANG instead of FANG if it's Apple. Otherwise I could only see it as Amazon. But Amazon had people WFH almost immediately, since being here in Seattle it was the start of the outbreak in the US.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  > People only say FAANG instead of FANG if it's Apple. I don't think this is true. Actually, most people would like to replace "N" with "M" in that acronym, but then it sounds much worse…
  - nostrademons 7y ago
    I'm partial to "MAGA" as the initialism for the top 4 tech companies by market cap (Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Apple). Facebook and Netflix are a tier below in market cap and size, and it also makes it clear who's really making America great again...
    - WorldMaker 7y ago
      I've seen GAFAM a lot, and that's the one I tend to favor. MAFANG (maybe?) if you really want to get Netflix in there? I know some people especially in the Bay Area think Netflix is important in the acronym not necessarily by market cap, but overall head count versus turnover and thus cultural swing (policies like "unlimited vacation" that started at Netflix and then in turn influenced a lot of other surrounding Bay Area companies).

CydeWeys 7y ago

It could easily be Google.

tibiahurried 7y ago
More Apple than Google. But yes, general speaking, the best you can hope for is one day WFH.

kleinsch 7y ago

I work at a FAANG. They’re OK with you working from home 1-2 days/week to run errands, etc, but not OK with 100% WFH except rare exceptions (usually people who have been at the company a while before moving). That may be what OP means. I’ll be curious to see if fully remote becomes more of a possibility based on how the next few months go.

acituan 7y ago
That changes wildly from team to team. I worked for one team where there was a set WFH day of the week. I had another team where 11am standup meetings were held everyday, and this was mostly for the benefit of the people manage who was very technically disinterested in what’s going on but wanted to enforce “coherence”, needless to say WFH was impossible. In another team, manager wasn’t comfortable allowing WFH because “it would create inequality between engineers” i.e he was just afraid of making a judgement call. Finally, had a team where manager would WFH 1-3 times a week himself and was actually the best manager of all in terms of being on top of things. The sentiment that this is heavily dependent on manager competence is correct IMHO.

cameronbrown 7y ago

It could be any. All FAANGs have their subcultures.

saagarjha 7y ago

Sounds very much like the company which spent recently spent $5 billion on suburban open offices.