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A little disappointed it’s not the rumoured 14” model as I’ve been looking to replace both my 15” and 13” MacBooks. Also, regarding other comments on “just” th

A little disappointed it’s not the rumoured 14” model as I’ve been looking to replace both my 15” and 13” MacBooks. Also, regarding other comments on “just” the 4 core CPU - it’s probably all they could squeeze in without having to redesign the chassis/thermal design. I’m going to hold off for a tear down to see if they have improved the cooling system like they did (Or claimed to) with the 16” version.

sigzero 6y ago
The 14" was just that, a rumor. MKHD had an interview with Phil S. and he said they were not coming out with a 14" point blank.
- natch 6y ago
  Yeah. But coming from a marketing executive like Phil, this kind of "not coming out with it" doesn't mean "never." It means "not coming out with it this next upcoming version." I think the rumor will stay alive.
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Eric_WVGG 6y ago
I’ve always found the 13” Pros to be the “worst of both worlds” compromise. You don’t get the svelte lightness of the Air, or the generous desktop or raw power of the big boy. Whatever your priority is, it’s just not there. A 14” screen would have at least differentiated the product. I think a lot of these are bought by corporate bean counters and people who assume that Airs must be awful if they’re the most affordable. (Yes, I’ve used them, my current “burner” is a ‘17 escape key model)
- vzidex 6y ago
  Having used a '15 (I think) 13" Pro for two internships, I actually found it met my needs really well. I personally can't stand any 14"+ laptop, so the 13" Pro hit a great spot for me of being: * Svelte enough to watch Netflix in bed with or throw in my bag to take on a commute * Powerful enough that I never had major performance issues when plugged in at my desk at work, driving an external monitor I look back on that machine and those internships fondly, and I could see myself going for a 13" MBP (or 14", if they ever release it) when I next need to upgrade my laptop - after I finish undergrad :)
  - Eric_WVGG 6y ago
    right, but have you used the Air? It's much nicer for similar performance.
    - hombre_fatal 6y ago
      I have owned two Airs. Macbook Pros are so thin and light these days that I don't understand what Air brings to the table anymore. I mean, a 13" Macbook Pro is 3 lbs. Ideally Macbook Pros would be thicker and heavier for better thermals and performance, and then Airs would have a purpose again.
    - eugeniub 6y ago
      We are talking about a 3.1 lb MBP versus a 2.8 lb MBA with basically the same dimensions. In addition, the Air has a dimmer screen, fewer ports, inferior display color space, and from what I've read, inferior thermal headroom. The two things the MBA has going for itself is better price and price to performance ratio. It also has a longer battery, but the gap is thinner than it once was (11 hours vs 10 hours).
- pier25 6y ago
  I'm still using a 2014 13'' MBP as my secondary machine and for web dev it's fine. It would be great if it was a bit faster, but being a 6 year old machine I'm surprised it's still so usable. For me the 13'' is the perfect balance between mobility and performance. At least for web dev, obviously not for video editing or gaming.
  - chrisfosterelli 6y ago
    I also love my 2014 13" Pro and have been desperately waiting for them to add the 32GB RAM option and physical esc key to upgrade. I think GP underestimates how many people find the 13" Pro to be the perfect sweet spot to balance power with portability.
- sjwright 6y ago
  > You don’t get the svelte lightness of the Air The Pro is barely any thicker and barely any heavier.
- hrktb 6y ago
  An advantage of the 13” is the lack of discrete GPU. If you don’t need one, you won’t have to care about tweaking for power consumption (like adding utilities to force disable it) and your laptop will be less likely to take off like a jet engine. I had to take the 15” to get the 32G RAM on the previous iteration, and it made me wish I could have had a 13” option at that time.
- Sangeppato 6y ago
  The Air is not smaller nor thinner than the Pro, it just weights a bit less. On the other hand performance and thermals are just a joke
j45 6y ago
I would have got rid of my i9 15” to get a 14”. Maybe Apple doesn’t want to cannibalize their forced 15” purchases.

sigzero 6y ago

The 14" was just that, a rumor. MKHD had an interview with Phil S. and he said they were not coming out with a 14" point blank.

natch 6y ago
Yeah. But coming from a marketing executive like Phil, this kind of "not coming out with it" doesn't mean "never." It means "not coming out with it this next upcoming version." I think the rumor will stay alive.

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Eric_WVGG 6y ago

I’ve always found the 13” Pros to be the “worst of both worlds” compromise. You don’t get the svelte lightness of the Air, or the generous desktop or raw power of the big boy. Whatever your priority is, it’s just not there. A 14” screen would have at least differentiated the product. I think a lot of these are bought by corporate bean counters and people who assume that Airs must be awful if they’re the most affordable. (Yes, I’ve used them, my current “burner” is a ‘17 escape key model)

vzidex 6y ago
Having used a '15 (I think) 13" Pro for two internships, I actually found it met my needs really well. I personally can't stand any 14"+ laptop, so the 13" Pro hit a great spot for me of being: * Svelte enough to watch Netflix in bed with or throw in my bag to take on a commute * Powerful enough that I never had major performance issues when plugged in at my desk at work, driving an external monitor I look back on that machine and those internships fondly, and I could see myself going for a 13" MBP (or 14", if they ever release it) when I next need to upgrade my laptop - after I finish undergrad :)
- Eric_WVGG 6y ago
  right, but have you used the Air? It's much nicer for similar performance.
  - hombre_fatal 6y ago
    I have owned two Airs. Macbook Pros are so thin and light these days that I don't understand what Air brings to the table anymore. I mean, a 13" Macbook Pro is 3 lbs. Ideally Macbook Pros would be thicker and heavier for better thermals and performance, and then Airs would have a purpose again.
  - eugeniub 6y ago
    We are talking about a 3.1 lb MBP versus a 2.8 lb MBA with basically the same dimensions. In addition, the Air has a dimmer screen, fewer ports, inferior display color space, and from what I've read, inferior thermal headroom. The two things the MBA has going for itself is better price and price to performance ratio. It also has a longer battery, but the gap is thinner than it once was (11 hours vs 10 hours).
pier25 6y ago
I'm still using a 2014 13'' MBP as my secondary machine and for web dev it's fine. It would be great if it was a bit faster, but being a 6 year old machine I'm surprised it's still so usable. For me the 13'' is the perfect balance between mobility and performance. At least for web dev, obviously not for video editing or gaming.
- chrisfosterelli 6y ago
  I also love my 2014 13" Pro and have been desperately waiting for them to add the 32GB RAM option and physical esc key to upgrade. I think GP underestimates how many people find the 13" Pro to be the perfect sweet spot to balance power with portability.
sjwright 6y ago
> You don’t get the svelte lightness of the Air The Pro is barely any thicker and barely any heavier.
hrktb 6y ago
An advantage of the 13” is the lack of discrete GPU. If you don’t need one, you won’t have to care about tweaking for power consumption (like adding utilities to force disable it) and your laptop will be less likely to take off like a jet engine. I had to take the 15” to get the 32G RAM on the previous iteration, and it made me wish I could have had a 13” option at that time.
Sangeppato 6y ago
The Air is not smaller nor thinner than the Pro, it just weights a bit less. On the other hand performance and thermals are just a joke

j45 6y ago

I would have got rid of my i9 15” to get a 14”. Maybe Apple doesn’t want to cannibalize their forced 15” purchases.