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I'm surprised this made it to the number 1 spot on the front page. From the Hacker News Guidelines: You can make up a new title if you want, but if you put

I'm surprised this made it to the number 1 spot on the front page. From the Hacker News Guidelines: You can make up a new title if you want, but if you put gratuitous editorial spin on it, the editors may rewrite it. Xcode 4 is available as a free download for Mac and iOS developers with a paid membership [1], just like the versions before it. Those who aren't paying members of ADC can get Xcode 4 via the Mac App Store, paying $5 to offset the bandwidth costs for the 4.24 GB download -- an option that didn't exist before. I'm also willing to bet that the new version of Xcode will be included on new Mac OS X install/restore disks, as Apple has always done. [1] http://developer.apple.com/xcode/index.php http://developer.apple.com/xcode/index.php (The comment was edited, as others have noted that they can't download from the ADC site with a free ADC account.)

draebek 16y ago
I logged in with my free! account and it told me I had to join either the iOS ($99/year) or Mac ($99/year) developer program to get Xcode for free. Otherwise I should head to the Mac App Store. Am I missing something?
reemrevnivek 16y ago
Wait...so it's only $5 in the app store? Are they just trying to cover the costs of 4+GB of bandwidth? I don't know what's worse: Making Xcode cost $5, or offering an app for $5 in the app store and free for download. However, I know that the first thing I'm going to do when I get home is come back here and click that link before they revoke that link.
- wtn 16y ago
  It's not going anywhere. Just get a torrent.
- calloc 16y ago
  If you have a Apple developer account then you can download it for free. If you have a free account (so you can submit bug reports, and downloaded the old Xcode 3.x) then you can not download Xcode 4.x. Note, Xcode 3 is still available for download from connect.apple.com or by following the link on the Xcode 4 websites on developer.apple.com, http://imgur.com/8LHXW http://imgur.com/8LHXW was updated on Monday!
timmaah 16y ago
You are incorrect.. If you are a member of their Developer Program you can download it for free. I am not and this is the message I get: You must be an iOS or Mac Developer Program member to download Xcode 4 or you can purchase Xcode 4 from the Mac App Store.
rbanffy 16y ago
No. The free membership does not allow you to download Xcode 4 for free - for that you need the US$99/year membership. You can download Xcode 4 through the Mac App Store, if you live in one of the countries served by the store, have a valid credit card issued in a country served by the store or have gift cards. I have an account in the Brazilian store since the day it opened. In order to download (free, mind you) podcasts directly from the iPod, I needed an account in the US store paid for with gift cards. I also don't see the spin as it represents accurately the cost of Xcode 4 - US$ 5 if you download it (assuming you can) and US$ 99 if bundled with other services.
masklinn 16y ago
> Xcode 4 is available for free download [1], just like the versions before it. For those who don't want to go through the fuss of registering (for free!) as an Apple developer, they can buy Xcode 4 via the Mac App Store. Alas, this is incorrect. Try to log in with a free developer account and it will tell you to go buy it on the AppStore you dirty hippie.
enduser 16y ago
I am currently paying 18 cents per GB outgoing from Rackspace Cloud. I bet Apple is paying less. Assuming they pay the same, that's 76 cents. $5 is not offsetting costs.
- sandofsky 16y ago
  Presumably it will cover all the point releases, which typically happen after a new product release. It will also cover every machine authorized with your Mac's app store account. I have 3 boxes. If we assume 5 point releases before the next paid upgrade, that's 63 gigs transferred. At your rate, that's $11.34.
recoiledsnake 16y ago
>paying $5 to offset the bandwidth costs for the 4.24 GB download That is ridiculous. Netflix would be making a loss just on the bandwidth if you stream more than 10 movies/month on the $8.99 plan. And it's not as if Apple's hurting for money, they're rolling around in tens of billions in cash, max this will make them is about $20 million bucks.

draebek 16y ago

I logged in with my free! account and it told me I had to join either the iOS ($99/year) or Mac ($99/year) developer program to get Xcode for free. Otherwise I should head to the Mac App Store. Am I missing something?

reemrevnivek 16y ago

Wait...so it's only $5 in the app store? Are they just trying to cover the costs of 4+GB of bandwidth? I don't know what's worse: Making Xcode cost $5, or offering an app for $5 in the app store and free for download. However, I know that the first thing I'm going to do when I get home is come back here and click that link before they revoke that link.

wtn 16y ago
It's not going anywhere. Just get a torrent.
calloc 16y ago
If you have a Apple developer account then you can download it for free. If you have a free account (so you can submit bug reports, and downloaded the old Xcode 3.x) then you can not download Xcode 4.x. Note, Xcode 3 is still available for download from connect.apple.com or by following the link on the Xcode 4 websites on developer.apple.com, http://imgur.com/8LHXW http://imgur.com/8LHXW was updated on Monday!

timmaah 16y ago

You are incorrect.. If you are a member of their Developer Program you can download it for free. I am not and this is the message I get: You must be an iOS or Mac Developer Program member to download Xcode 4 or you can purchase Xcode 4 from the Mac App Store.

rbanffy 16y ago

No. The free membership does not allow you to download Xcode 4 for free - for that you need the US$99/year membership. You can download Xcode 4 through the Mac App Store, if you live in one of the countries served by the store, have a valid credit card issued in a country served by the store or have gift cards. I have an account in the Brazilian store since the day it opened. In order to download (free, mind you) podcasts directly from the iPod, I needed an account in the US store paid for with gift cards. I also don't see the spin as it represents accurately the cost of Xcode 4 - US$ 5 if you download it (assuming you can) and US$ 99 if bundled with other services.

masklinn 16y ago

> Xcode 4 is available for free download [1], just like the versions before it. For those who don't want to go through the fuss of registering (for free!) as an Apple developer, they can buy Xcode 4 via the Mac App Store. Alas, this is incorrect. Try to log in with a free developer account and it will tell you to go buy it on the AppStore you dirty hippie.

enduser 16y ago

I am currently paying 18 cents per GB outgoing from Rackspace Cloud. I bet Apple is paying less. Assuming they pay the same, that's 76 cents. $5 is not offsetting costs.

sandofsky 16y ago
Presumably it will cover all the point releases, which typically happen after a new product release. It will also cover every machine authorized with your Mac's app store account. I have 3 boxes. If we assume 5 point releases before the next paid upgrade, that's 63 gigs transferred. At your rate, that's $11.34.

recoiledsnake 16y ago

>paying $5 to offset the bandwidth costs for the 4.24 GB download That is ridiculous. Netflix would be making a loss just on the bandwidth if you stream more than 10 movies/month on the $8.99 plan. And it's not as if Apple's hurting for money, they're rolling around in tens of billions in cash, max this will make them is about $20 million bucks.