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It's astonishing how far the MBP has fallen in ten years. My 2010 MBP was and still is the perfect laptop design. Look what Apple has taken away from us: MagS
by corey_moncure 6y ago
It's astonishing how far the MBP has fallen in ten years. My 2010 MBP was and still is the perfect laptop design. Look what Apple has taken away from us: MagSafe, SD card slot, optical audio I/O, RJ45, USB-A, even the top row of our keyboards. What have we gained? The same internal advances that are in every other computer, a gimmicky touch bar, fragile keyboard mechanism, and USB-C.
What's really sad is that none of this decline was necessary. All they had to do was leave the perfect laptop alone, and go on upgrading the internals. Were they selling the 2010-2012 MBPs at a loss or something?
- pentae 6y agoTo be fair, they fixed the keyboard mechanism. But agree 100% on all other points.
- whywhywhywhy 6y agoCould have been fixed much quicker, I don't see why we are saying they did a good job on that problem when they just replaced it in exactly the normal product cycle. Could have been fixed within a year but it would have cost more money so nah just ship a faulty product for 4 years they'll eat it up anyway and replace it when we were gonna do a redesign anyway.
- nonane 6y agoMagSafe was flawed - I’m glad it’s gone. It had massive reliability issues due to dust getting in between the connectors - which ending up causing charging problems, excessive heat at the charging port and countless charging adapter replacements.
- xhruso00 6y agoOn MBP2015 and i love magsafe.
- whywhywhywhy 6y agoMostly because they insist on using supposedly eco-friendly rubber that frays dangerously. Ignoring that me buying 5 chargers across the life of a device is far worse for the environment than just 1. My Titanium Powerbook charger still remains un-frayed and I used that laptop everyday for 9 years.
- bigwheeler 6y agoI’m on a 2012 MBP and MagSafe has worked flawlessly for 8 years for me. I think I might hold on to my MBP until it doesn’t boot up anymore, there’s no upside to “upgrading” right now, besides being able to double the ram. MagSafe, 2012 keyboard destroys 2020’s, no Touch Bar, and most importantly- it’s rock-solid reliable.
- jes5199 6y agoI had the very last edition magsafe connector on my 2015ish macbook. And _that_ one had the infuriating problem that the charge port got so hot that it would melt the insulation right off of the wire! I replaced the charger every few months, and it just kept happening. I upgraded to a thinkpad.
- fluffything 6y agoOn a 2013 Macbook air, MagSafe has worked perfectly for me for the last 7 years. Saved my laptop a couple of times too. Way more worth it than AppleCare.
- martinvol 6y agoSeriously are you missing optical?
- geerlingguy 6y agoI can count on one hand the number of times I've had to use an optical drive in the past 5 years. I'm guessing most of us are in a similar situation. For those instances, I pull out an old external USB blu-ray player.
- corey_moncure 6y agoOptical audio I/O. Many people might not know this, but you could actually plug in an optical S/PDIF cable into your Macbook Pro, on both the "microphone" input and "headphones" output line, to get digital audio in and out.
- interestica 6y agoI had that on an 09 Pro/Unibody. It was kinda brilliant (ha). Imagine such dual type port on a phone...
- vel0city 6y agoThe top level commenter was not talking about an optical drive like CDs or DVDs, they were talking about having optical audio connectivity through a TOSLINK mini plug.
- geerlingguy 6y agoAh. I used to plug my old original Core 2 Duo MBP into a 5.1 system using a mini TOSlink cable, but since HDMI started doing surround audio I haven't had a need for optical audio connections. It was cool seeing a LED inside the audio jack, however.
- interestica 6y agoWhat's the alternative? Laser beams and fibre optics are still potentially better than conductive wire. I suspect we will see a resurgence.
- stefan_ 6y agoExcept you aren't even getting the internal advances. They are seriously selling an 8th gen i5 with 8 GiB of DDR3 memory in the base models.