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4 cores is actually more than enough to do almost all development. I work on a four core PC right now (i7-4770k) running Linux and couple VMs and containers, on

4 cores is actually more than enough to do almost all development. I work on a four core PC right now (i7-4770k) running Linux and couple VMs and containers, one VM dedicated to running Windows 10 which is in turn running Citrix client. I have two 4K monitors and bunch of hardware. I work on webapps, backend software, have couple IDEs running at the same time and probably Zoom session, not to mention huge amount of Chrome tabs. It all works without hitch and if there is a hitch it is typically Chrome or Gnome misbehaving, not lack of cores.

rvz 7y ago
Yes. Now just avoid running those poor Electron apps which actually impact battery life on all laptops. No user shouldn't need to get a laptop with a i7 CPU with 16GB to 32GB of RAM and a high end GPU to run your over-engineered chat app. I get this all the time with my MacBook that I use for development. Run 1 or 2 of them is fine, but 10 or more at the same time and it will run the machine down to the ground.
- Jonnax 7y ago
  Okay. So today most desktop apps are electron. The advantage is that it allows people to make windows, Mac and Linux apps with ease. They're not going to go anywhere unless there is a better alternative. Coding native is a waste of money in most cases. Especially for a chat app. Hardware manufactures sell computers. The computers they sell need to be able to perform well on the applications that exist today. There's no point saying the apps are shitty if the laptop they're trying to sell doesn't run well with it. Maybe today laptops should have 16gb of ram at a minimum. AMD's resurgence has shown Intel in some cases dropping the price of their CPUs by 50%. Maybe cheaper computers need to be more powerful.
  - whywhywhywhy 7y ago
    They're not going anywhere and it's only going to get more prevalent when Apple moves to ARM. Can't see Catalyst apps being a compelling alternative to the benefits of Electron to any team who has to answer to a budget. I don't agree with it ideologically because I moved to mac because I loved how Cocoa apps felt, but honestly Microsoft has the right idea in just embracing it because it isn't going anyway any time soon so best just to make sure they run well on your platform.
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threatofrain 7y ago
I find compilation painful even on my desktop, and cost of operation is still on my mind when I’m trying to do a quick demo to people. I feel like people here who are professionals make enough to justify buying away these latencies and distractions.
- lmilcin 7y ago
  I agree with your last sentence. As with any tools, it depends on your usage. But saying that 4 cores is ridiculous misses the truth. A lot of people, myself included, use 4 core machines completely successfully. If you need more, there is absolutely nothing wrong with paying more for more powerful machine. It's just not every PC on the market has to have absolutely most powerful configuration available at the moment.

rvz 7y ago

Yes. Now just avoid running those poor Electron apps which actually impact battery life on all laptops. No user shouldn't need to get a laptop with a i7 CPU with 16GB to 32GB of RAM and a high end GPU to run your over-engineered chat app. I get this all the time with my MacBook that I use for development. Run 1 or 2 of them is fine, but 10 or more at the same time and it will run the machine down to the ground.

Jonnax 7y ago
Okay. So today most desktop apps are electron. The advantage is that it allows people to make windows, Mac and Linux apps with ease. They're not going to go anywhere unless there is a better alternative. Coding native is a waste of money in most cases. Especially for a chat app. Hardware manufactures sell computers. The computers they sell need to be able to perform well on the applications that exist today. There's no point saying the apps are shitty if the laptop they're trying to sell doesn't run well with it. Maybe today laptops should have 16gb of ram at a minimum. AMD's resurgence has shown Intel in some cases dropping the price of their CPUs by 50%. Maybe cheaper computers need to be more powerful.
- whywhywhywhy 7y ago
  They're not going anywhere and it's only going to get more prevalent when Apple moves to ARM. Can't see Catalyst apps being a compelling alternative to the benefits of Electron to any team who has to answer to a budget. I don't agree with it ideologically because I moved to mac because I loved how Cocoa apps felt, but honestly Microsoft has the right idea in just embracing it because it isn't going anyway any time soon so best just to make sure they run well on your platform.

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threatofrain 7y ago

I find compilation painful even on my desktop, and cost of operation is still on my mind when I’m trying to do a quick demo to people. I feel like people here who are professionals make enough to justify buying away these latencies and distractions.

lmilcin 7y ago
I agree with your last sentence. As with any tools, it depends on your usage. But saying that 4 cores is ridiculous misses the truth. A lot of people, myself included, use 4 core machines completely successfully. If you need more, there is absolutely nothing wrong with paying more for more powerful machine. It's just not every PC on the market has to have absolutely most powerful configuration available at the moment.