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Whenever I read about Tetris, the "Complete History Of The Soviet Union, Arranged To The Melody Of Tetris" immediately starts playing in my head: https://www.yo

Whenever I read about Tetris, the "Complete History Of The Soviet Union, Arranged To The Melody Of Tetris" immediately starts playing in my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8

bitwize 6y ago
The "Tetris song" is Коробейники, a popular Russian folk tune. Here is the original version being sung: https://youtu.be/qFsZbpc3xvg https://youtu.be/qFsZbpc3xvg Despite being in the public domain, The Tetris Company still asserts and defends IP rights to the song: specifically, the song is trademarked to The Tetris Company when used as video game music.
- doublesCs 6y ago
  Mandatory Red Army Choir version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKs0YCr6UTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKs0YCr6UTs
- drran 6y ago
  Коробейники (text: Nekrasov 1861, music: Prigozhyj 1898) is not a folk song, because Russian language is not folk language. (Russian language is official language of Great Russian Empire, which was created to replace various folk languages used. Folk language AKA "народная молва" now known as Ukrainian language "украинская мова"). IMHO, descendants of Nekrasov, if any, should contest this copyright claim and collect damages.
  - _emacsomancer_ 6y ago
    What is the official definition of a 'folk language' in Russia? Any language traditionally spoken in Russia which isn't an official language (or which isn't Russian itself)? And, second question, does this mean there can't be 'folk songs' in Russian? (I mean, English, despite being an official language in several countries, certainly has folk songs, for instance.)
    - int_19h 6y ago
      It's nationalist pseudohistory. Russian language evolved, same as any other. Now, for some languages, the process of establishing the literary standard leans more on the de facto vernacular, and for others it derives more from the pre-existing standards previously limited to some niche - e.g. common liturgical/theological language, or language of science. In case of modern literary Russian, it's derived more from Church Slavonic than Ukrainian or Belarusian, which emphasized vernacular - but it doesn't mean that it's not a "folk language".
      - _emacsomancer_ 6y ago
        Questions about language evolution and the relation of 'vernaculars' and 'standards' is in my wheelhouse, in fact. (Church Slavonic is South Slavic and Russian is firmly East Slavic, like Ukranian and Belarusian, at least in terms of its descent, but as both Church Slavonic and Russian have been 'standards', its not surprising that Russian (at least the standardised, formal versions of Russian) would have been influenced by (the standardised) Church Slavonic).) But in this case, I was just wondering about which languages (in the pseudohistory) are considered 'folk languages'. Does Ukrainian count as a 'folk language'? Are all Slavic languages in Russia that aren't Russian 'folk languages'?
        drran 6y ago
        Ukrainian language IS the folk language. It was known as "folk language" ("народная молва") previously.
        int_19h 6y ago
        By Ukrainians, sure. It's pretty common for people to refer to their own speech simply as "the speech", and have more specific labels for other people. Ukrainian (and Russian, and most other Slavic languages) also uses a word for Germans that literally means "mute", for similar reasons.
        6y ago

bitwize 6y ago

The "Tetris song" is Коробейники, a popular Russian folk tune. Here is the original version being sung: https://youtu.be/qFsZbpc3xvg https://youtu.be/qFsZbpc3xvg Despite being in the public domain, The Tetris Company still asserts and defends IP rights to the song: specifically, the song is trademarked to The Tetris Company when used as video game music.

doublesCs 6y ago
Mandatory Red Army Choir version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKs0YCr6UTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKs0YCr6UTs
drran 6y ago
Коробейники (text: Nekrasov 1861, music: Prigozhyj 1898) is not a folk song, because Russian language is not folk language. (Russian language is official language of Great Russian Empire, which was created to replace various folk languages used. Folk language AKA "народная молва" now known as Ukrainian language "украинская мова"). IMHO, descendants of Nekrasov, if any, should contest this copyright claim and collect damages.
- _emacsomancer_ 6y ago
  What is the official definition of a 'folk language' in Russia? Any language traditionally spoken in Russia which isn't an official language (or which isn't Russian itself)? And, second question, does this mean there can't be 'folk songs' in Russian? (I mean, English, despite being an official language in several countries, certainly has folk songs, for instance.)
  - int_19h 6y ago
    It's nationalist pseudohistory. Russian language evolved, same as any other. Now, for some languages, the process of establishing the literary standard leans more on the de facto vernacular, and for others it derives more from the pre-existing standards previously limited to some niche - e.g. common liturgical/theological language, or language of science. In case of modern literary Russian, it's derived more from Church Slavonic than Ukrainian or Belarusian, which emphasized vernacular - but it doesn't mean that it's not a "folk language".
    - _emacsomancer_ 6y ago
      Questions about language evolution and the relation of 'vernaculars' and 'standards' is in my wheelhouse, in fact. (Church Slavonic is South Slavic and Russian is firmly East Slavic, like Ukranian and Belarusian, at least in terms of its descent, but as both Church Slavonic and Russian have been 'standards', its not surprising that Russian (at least the standardised, formal versions of Russian) would have been influenced by (the standardised) Church Slavonic).) But in this case, I was just wondering about which languages (in the pseudohistory) are considered 'folk languages'. Does Ukrainian count as a 'folk language'? Are all Slavic languages in Russia that aren't Russian 'folk languages'?
      - drran 6y ago
        Ukrainian language IS the folk language. It was known as "folk language" ("народная молва") previously.
        int_19h 6y ago
        By Ukrainians, sure. It's pretty common for people to refer to their own speech simply as "the speech", and have more specific labels for other people. Ukrainian (and Russian, and most other Slavic languages) also uses a word for Germans that literally means "mute", for similar reasons.
        6y ago