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Trump 2020 only since it seems not enough people think we haven't learned sht and hell, think we are somehow a better country because of him. Let it burn and ma

Trump 2020 only since it seems not enough people think we haven't learned sht and hell, think we are somehow a better country because of him. Let it burn and maybe AOC can start with a clean slate in 2024.

zimpenfish 6y ago
> Let it burn That may well be ok for you to say but thousands of people have already died as a direct consequence of Trump's presidency. Hundreds of thousands more have been penalised for their race, beliefs, sexuality, etc. Generations to come will suffer because of the regulations they're undoing and the courts they've packed with Federalist wingnuts. Have some compassion, c'mon.
- Feuilles_Mortes 6y ago
  Thousands in the Middle East died from Obama's presidency. At a certain point you start to think that the "lesser of two evils" strategy just shifts the playing field to be ever-increasing in its evil across the board.
  - zimpenfish 6y ago
    And thousands in the Middle East died from Bush's presidency. And millions died during Reagan's because he bungled AIDS. You can whataboutism all day but it helps no-one.
    - Feuilles_Mortes 6y ago
      Absolutely. I don't mean to make the issue a partisan one, but to point out that it is distinctly non-partisan (at least between the Democrats and Reuplicans).
    - jyrkesh 6y ago
      I don't think it's whataboutism if the argument is about whether The Other Guy will also end up being responsible for the death of thousands (or more) from some other event (planned or unplanned). Not making an argument for either side, I just don't think it's whataboutism to argue that the variance of the incompetence of US presidents isn't very high.
      - zimpenfish 6y ago
        > the variance of the incompetence of US presidents isn't very high Bush: thousands dead through incompetence in the USA (Katrina, 9/11) Obama: Trump: thousands dead through incompetence and malice in the USA (ICE, COVID-19) I've taken out the "overseas wars" because that's shared across all of them.

zimpenfish 6y ago

> Let it burn That may well be ok for you to say but thousands of people have already died as a direct consequence of Trump's presidency. Hundreds of thousands more have been penalised for their race, beliefs, sexuality, etc. Generations to come will suffer because of the regulations they're undoing and the courts they've packed with Federalist wingnuts. Have some compassion, c'mon.

Feuilles_Mortes 6y ago
Thousands in the Middle East died from Obama's presidency. At a certain point you start to think that the "lesser of two evils" strategy just shifts the playing field to be ever-increasing in its evil across the board.
- zimpenfish 6y ago
  And thousands in the Middle East died from Bush's presidency. And millions died during Reagan's because he bungled AIDS. You can whataboutism all day but it helps no-one.
  - Feuilles_Mortes 6y ago
    Absolutely. I don't mean to make the issue a partisan one, but to point out that it is distinctly non-partisan (at least between the Democrats and Reuplicans).
  - jyrkesh 6y ago
    I don't think it's whataboutism if the argument is about whether The Other Guy will also end up being responsible for the death of thousands (or more) from some other event (planned or unplanned). Not making an argument for either side, I just don't think it's whataboutism to argue that the variance of the incompetence of US presidents isn't very high.
    - zimpenfish 6y ago
      > the variance of the incompetence of US presidents isn't very high Bush: thousands dead through incompetence in the USA (Katrina, 9/11) Obama: Trump: thousands dead through incompetence and malice in the USA (ICE, COVID-19) I've taken out the "overseas wars" because that's shared across all of them.