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Why do systemd detractors keep styling it as SystemD? I'm honestly curious. You know it's written all lowercase, right?

aerique 6y ago
Basically to annoy you. Yes, it's childish but also very satisfying. Do you want us to even give that up now that we're stuck with SystemD?
- sjwright 6y ago
  You seem to be under the misapprehension that anyone remotely cares. Childish tantrums are counter-productive as they almost entirely blowback onto your own psychological state rather than affecting anyone else's. You are permanently stuck with the contents of your brain; everyone else has a quick chuckle at the troll and continues scrolling past. Clearly you are immensely frustrated. I suspect this stems from the fact that nearly everyone else either doesn't know and is unaffected, or prefers SyStEmD over sysvinit, or doesn't care one way or the other. For me the whole debate is hilarious because every single objection I've heard about sYsTeMd is one or more of the following: 1. Factually incorrect; 2. Resolved with a trivial config change; 3. Preference for the familiar; 4. Preference for theoretical principles over pragmatism; 5. The kernel is orders of magnitude worse ("but that's different").
  - rini17 6y ago
    6. Very reasonable systemd issues met with unreasonable hostility. There are plenty of linked examples in the article.
    - sjwright 6y ago
      Name one that doesn't fit any of my five categories.
      - rini17 6y ago
        These are very broadly defined categories and everything can be conveniently rationalized to fit into them. For example I expect this be downvoted and filed under 3 or 5. (tl;dr: systemd broke a "debug" kernel parameter and handwaved it away with "Generic terms are generic, not the first user owns them." ) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935
lorenzhs 6y ago
Revelling in their rejection of systemd. It's childish nonsense and a pretty reliable indicator that a person is bitter about it and their comment most likely not worth reading.

Basically to annoy you. Yes, it's childish but also very satisfying. Do you want us to even give that up now that we're stuck with SystemD?

sjwright 6y ago
You seem to be under the misapprehension that anyone remotely cares. Childish tantrums are counter-productive as they almost entirely blowback onto your own psychological state rather than affecting anyone else's. You are permanently stuck with the contents of your brain; everyone else has a quick chuckle at the troll and continues scrolling past. Clearly you are immensely frustrated. I suspect this stems from the fact that nearly everyone else either doesn't know and is unaffected, or prefers SyStEmD over sysvinit, or doesn't care one way or the other. For me the whole debate is hilarious because every single objection I've heard about sYsTeMd is one or more of the following: 1. Factually incorrect; 2. Resolved with a trivial config change; 3. Preference for the familiar; 4. Preference for theoretical principles over pragmatism; 5. The kernel is orders of magnitude worse ("but that's different").
- rini17 6y ago
  6. Very reasonable systemd issues met with unreasonable hostility. There are plenty of linked examples in the article.
  - sjwright 6y ago
    Name one that doesn't fit any of my five categories.
    - rini17 6y ago
      These are very broadly defined categories and everything can be conveniently rationalized to fit into them. For example I expect this be downvoted and filed under 3 or 5. (tl;dr: systemd broke a "debug" kernel parameter and handwaved it away with "Generic terms are generic, not the first user owns them." ) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935

lorenzhs 6y ago

Revelling in their rejection of systemd. It's childish nonsense and a pretty reliable indicator that a person is bitter about it and their comment most likely not worth reading.