The other component here is "where you came from." When I joined Sun there were two very distinct programmer/hacker cultures; the PC and its spawn and "real" co

The other component here is "where you came from." When I joined Sun there were two very distinct programmer/hacker cultures; the PC and its spawn and "real" computers (mini and mainframe computers) and their OSes. The cultures were very different, I straddled them with my hobby working being CP/M->PC->Amiga, and my professional work being RSX-11M->TENEX->TOPS20->UNIX. Linux (and Minix) started out very much being a PC version of UNIX and PC-BSD jumped in there too. But Linus ceded userland to the community and as the community's membership has grown the people who wanted Linux to be the perfect UNIX lost out to the people who wanted Linux to be an open source version of Microsoft Windows. It appeared to me that the folks who liked UNIX semantics fled to MacOS, although the complaints on that front are getting louder as well. So here we are.