Just as an aside, for those of you looking to hire, I think engineers like this are an untapped goldmine. Most are paid 2/3rds or less of an average software de

Just as an aside, for those of you looking to hire, I think engineers like this are an untapped goldmine. Most are paid 2/3rds or less of an average software dev (at least in the uk) but most have had experience programming and all will have the sort of mind needed to ferret out problems at the design/ideas stage of the dev lifecycle. Hire all of them.