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MGS5 was a fantastic game. I am not sure how I feel about what happened between him and Konami. On the one hand, it's a shame that they released something that

MGS5 was a fantastic game. I am not sure how I feel about what happened between him and Konami. On the one hand, it's a shame that they released something that was unfinished. From the bits and pieces that remain of the unfinished parts, it seems as if it would have been even better. Poetically, the ending left many fans with the "Phantom Pain" of having lost a part of their beloved franchise. Personally it was a really strange but beautiful experience to go through. In terms of the business side of things, if it's true that he and his team were behind schedule and their productivity was apparently low with no foreseeable end in sight, I could probably see why Konami would make the decision to force him to market with whatever he could finish. As for the details, I hear things got very ugly between them, which is a shame. I read in places that Kojima himself was not really too interested in making more MGS games, so regardless of what happened maybe it was for the best. I hope he's able to build a similarly interesting universe again. I will probably try Death Stranding when it comes to PC.

MaximumMadness 6y ago
The fallout between Kojima & Konami is definitely an interesting story. In the end, it would have been in Konami's best interest to retain him and let him do what he wanted, rather than pump him for more money via MGS. The man gets eyeballs (and dollars) on whatever he makes, you think Konami would recognize that.
- deergomoo 6y ago
  Konami has very little interest in the games industry period anymore. They’re highly diversified and I believe most of their income comes from pachinko and health clubs now.
  - phonon 6y ago
    How well is that doing now?
    - dempedempe 6y ago
      Pachinko is basically Japanese slot machines. It's an addiction, so it's doing pretty well.
      - phonon 6y ago
        I mean, they are supposed to be closed now. So, not really... https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/04/546d5ad5a60d-all-pachinko-parlors-in-tokyo-now-shut-to-contain-virus-koike.html https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/04/546d5ad5a60d-all-...
zerocrates 6y ago
Kojima has publicly said he was done or wanted to be done making Metal Gear games after... pretty much every Metal Gear game since Metal Gear Solid. Though he did seem to get more enthusiastic about Peace Walker and V, two games that share a lot of things.
deergomoo 6y ago
I’ve always that MGS V is a stellar action game but a disappointing entry in the Metal Gear franchise, particularly if you’re into that particular Kojima brand of weird. It was just so barren in terms of narrative, and what was there was forgettable and ultimately unimportant to the overall story. I wonder what could have been if the second half of the game was what it was originally intended to be, instead of just repeating some earlier missions on a harder difficulty. Ground Zeroes really set things up for the full game to be something amazing, but it didn’t pay off. That, and I think it was a very low blow to not ask David Hayter back. Given how few lines Kiefer Sutherland has in the whole game I guess his rates were a little higher.
- root_axis 6y ago
  Agreed on the overall narrative and lack of David Hayter. However, the core game mechanics in MGS5 were beautifully refined and IMO are the most fun of the series. The open-world approach really paid off in terms of giving the player a lot of creative freedom in devising successful strategies for infiltrating a particular compound. Also, the fight with Quiet was classic Kojima epic. MGS3 is still the GOAT but, MGS5 is absolutely worth playing for any fan of the series.
- fareesh 6y ago
  When I think about Hayter vs Kiefer I think back to the ashes scene on the ship and imagine what Hayter would sound like if he had to say the lines and honestly I can't imagine him doing a better job. Maybe this particular role required someone who could do a better job with scenes like that. Also there is a spoiler related reason why the protagonist does not sound the same in this game.
ekianjo 6y ago
If Kojima was not interested in MGS games anymore he would be an amazing liar. I saw him about every year talking about each new episode or spin off and he never looked like he was even a little bored with it.

MaximumMadness 6y ago

The fallout between Kojima & Konami is definitely an interesting story. In the end, it would have been in Konami's best interest to retain him and let him do what he wanted, rather than pump him for more money via MGS. The man gets eyeballs (and dollars) on whatever he makes, you think Konami would recognize that.

deergomoo 6y ago
Konami has very little interest in the games industry period anymore. They’re highly diversified and I believe most of their income comes from pachinko and health clubs now.
- phonon 6y ago
  How well is that doing now?
  - dempedempe 6y ago
    Pachinko is basically Japanese slot machines. It's an addiction, so it's doing pretty well.
    - phonon 6y ago
      I mean, they are supposed to be closed now. So, not really... https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/04/546d5ad5a60d-all-pachinko-parlors-in-tokyo-now-shut-to-contain-virus-koike.html https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020/04/546d5ad5a60d-all-...

zerocrates 6y ago

Kojima has publicly said he was done or wanted to be done making Metal Gear games after... pretty much every Metal Gear game since Metal Gear Solid. Though he did seem to get more enthusiastic about Peace Walker and V, two games that share a lot of things.

deergomoo 6y ago

I’ve always that MGS V is a stellar action game but a disappointing entry in the Metal Gear franchise, particularly if you’re into that particular Kojima brand of weird. It was just so barren in terms of narrative, and what was there was forgettable and ultimately unimportant to the overall story. I wonder what could have been if the second half of the game was what it was originally intended to be, instead of just repeating some earlier missions on a harder difficulty. Ground Zeroes really set things up for the full game to be something amazing, but it didn’t pay off. That, and I think it was a very low blow to not ask David Hayter back. Given how few lines Kiefer Sutherland has in the whole game I guess his rates were a little higher.

root_axis 6y ago
Agreed on the overall narrative and lack of David Hayter. However, the core game mechanics in MGS5 were beautifully refined and IMO are the most fun of the series. The open-world approach really paid off in terms of giving the player a lot of creative freedom in devising successful strategies for infiltrating a particular compound. Also, the fight with Quiet was classic Kojima epic. MGS3 is still the GOAT but, MGS5 is absolutely worth playing for any fan of the series.
fareesh 6y ago
When I think about Hayter vs Kiefer I think back to the ashes scene on the ship and imagine what Hayter would sound like if he had to say the lines and honestly I can't imagine him doing a better job. Maybe this particular role required someone who could do a better job with scenes like that. Also there is a spoiler related reason why the protagonist does not sound the same in this game.

ekianjo 6y ago

If Kojima was not interested in MGS games anymore he would be an amazing liar. I saw him about every year talking about each new episode or spin off and he never looked like he was even a little bored with it.