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No longer available free for those without the $99 Mac or iOS developer membership. It is, however, only $5 from the app store.

oemera 16y ago
Wow! Apple is really doing some weird things lately. I don't like where this is heading. But when you think about the price and what you are getting it's unbeatable.
- NumberFiveAlive 16y ago
  I would say 'free' beats it, even at $5. Still, it's gonna be worth it for the single window interface alone.
  - benbeltran 16y ago
    Even though $5 is pretty cheap. There is a lot of power in 'free' (As Dan Ariely would say), and I'm sure there will be some bad consequences for apple here, but not that many and maybe it's worth it for their new strategy for developers. What that strategy is, I have no clue.
  - oemera 16y ago
    Yeah sure free beats it. Most times. I mean sometimes people don't see the value when they are getting it for free. Example: Guy finds a bug in a free software and thinks 'what doesn't cost nothing can't be anything'. But these people are mostly end users not developers. Long story short: I don't have a clue why Apple is selling XCode 4 BUT when I look at Microsoft you are getting a hell of a software for just 5 bucks. (Visual Studio costs 1500 bucks I think, to be fair there is also a Express (free) edition) Anyway, I love the new XCode one window interface!
originalgeek 16y ago
I'll pony up the $5 but I have to say, Apple sure is ignoring past lessons of the industry. Namely, those with free dev tools have little problem attracting developers.
- noarchy 16y ago
  Even MS gives away its Express Editions for VS. I'm a little surprised to see Apple move to a paid model, though $5 is very cheap, I admit.
  - protomyth 16y ago
    I think it is either an accounting thing or they decided they wanted people to pay for the 4.28GB download and decided to charge their "standard low price".
  - YooLi 16y ago
    You can still download XCode 3.2 free. Think of it as the equivalent of the Express Edition for VS.
- tptacek 16y ago
  A gobsmackingly weird comment considering that for the majority of the lifetime of the most popular application development platform on the planet, its development tools cost hundreds of dollars.
  - timdorr 16y ago
    Then allow me to adjust his statement slightly: Namely, those with free dev tools have little problem attracting good developers.
    - tptacek 16y ago
      What does that even mean? I'm asking seriously. You're saying Windows didn't have a lot of good developers?
  - originalgeek 16y ago
    That's a very Windows-centric comment. The cases I am referring to are in regard to non-dominant platforms. Compare OS X, NetWare, Linux to the likes of OS/2, MacOS (8/9), Solaris.
irons 16y ago
You're mistaken. Xcode 3 and 4 are still available with the $99/year dev memberships for iOS or Mac OS X.
- uxp 16y ago
  I think you misread what he wrote. Xcode 3 is free for anyone with a free developer account. Today, the newest version of Xcode was released, Xcode 4, and it is not available for free with a developer account, it is $4.99 in the Mac App Store. If you happen to be a member of the Mac Developer Program, or the iOS Developer program, both of which cost $99 per year, then it is included in your subscription and you may download it for free.

oemera 16y ago

Wow! Apple is really doing some weird things lately. I don't like where this is heading. But when you think about the price and what you are getting it's unbeatable.

NumberFiveAlive 16y ago
I would say 'free' beats it, even at $5. Still, it's gonna be worth it for the single window interface alone.
- benbeltran 16y ago
  Even though $5 is pretty cheap. There is a lot of power in 'free' (As Dan Ariely would say), and I'm sure there will be some bad consequences for apple here, but not that many and maybe it's worth it for their new strategy for developers. What that strategy is, I have no clue.
- oemera 16y ago
  Yeah sure free beats it. Most times. I mean sometimes people don't see the value when they are getting it for free. Example: Guy finds a bug in a free software and thinks 'what doesn't cost nothing can't be anything'. But these people are mostly end users not developers. Long story short: I don't have a clue why Apple is selling XCode 4 BUT when I look at Microsoft you are getting a hell of a software for just 5 bucks. (Visual Studio costs 1500 bucks I think, to be fair there is also a Express (free) edition) Anyway, I love the new XCode one window interface!

originalgeek 16y ago

I'll pony up the $5 but I have to say, Apple sure is ignoring past lessons of the industry. Namely, those with free dev tools have little problem attracting developers.

noarchy 16y ago
Even MS gives away its Express Editions for VS. I'm a little surprised to see Apple move to a paid model, though $5 is very cheap, I admit.
- protomyth 16y ago
  I think it is either an accounting thing or they decided they wanted people to pay for the 4.28GB download and decided to charge their "standard low price".
- YooLi 16y ago
  You can still download XCode 3.2 free. Think of it as the equivalent of the Express Edition for VS.
tptacek 16y ago
A gobsmackingly weird comment considering that for the majority of the lifetime of the most popular application development platform on the planet, its development tools cost hundreds of dollars.
- timdorr 16y ago
  Then allow me to adjust his statement slightly: Namely, those with free dev tools have little problem attracting good developers.
  - tptacek 16y ago
    What does that even mean? I'm asking seriously. You're saying Windows didn't have a lot of good developers?
- originalgeek 16y ago
  That's a very Windows-centric comment. The cases I am referring to are in regard to non-dominant platforms. Compare OS X, NetWare, Linux to the likes of OS/2, MacOS (8/9), Solaris.

irons 16y ago

You're mistaken. Xcode 3 and 4 are still available with the $99/year dev memberships for iOS or Mac OS X.

uxp 16y ago
I think you misread what he wrote. Xcode 3 is free for anyone with a free developer account. Today, the newest version of Xcode was released, Xcode 4, and it is not available for free with a developer account, it is $4.99 in the Mac App Store. If you happen to be a member of the Mac Developer Program, or the iOS Developer program, both of which cost $99 per year, then it is included in your subscription and you may download it for free.