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Do you have any data to support the assertion that higher temperatures help calm Covid rates? Seeing as Singapore is having an extremely tough time right now, I

Do you have any data to support the assertion that higher temperatures help calm Covid rates? Seeing as Singapore is having an extremely tough time right now, I don’t think you do. This is pure supposition.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago
It's a well-known correlation with influenza. Yes it may be untrue with Corona Virus, but that remains to be seen. It would be unusual if the correlation didn't hold.
- wbronitsky 6y ago
  Please stop insisting we have evidence when none exists. My question was: do we have evidence that warm weather slows Covid outbreaks? So far, the answer is “no”, and asserting anything else is not an argument, it’s a made up story.
  - blix 6y ago
    Asserting that there is absolutely no temperature dependence without evidence is pretty much the same thing as asserting there absolutely is without evidence. If there is no data, the best choice is to say that you don't know while coming up with plausible hypotheses. That a virus might share some traits with other closely related viruses is not so uncommon. Extrapolation from prior evidence when no direct evidence is available is one of the main capabilities of the scientific method. This is pretty far from a 'made up story.' It's a bit of moot point though. Because of the extremely plausible nature of the idea that covid might have some temperature dependence, there are many people investigating this specific claim. With a cursory web search, you can find several papers and pre-prints on the subject, a small majority of which find evidence to support that trend. Saying that temperature can't affect covid transmission because Singapore is having a tough time is akin to suggesting climate change isn't real because it snowed in April. It is just one data point.
    - gus_massa 6y ago
      There was a nice article about similar coronavirus. No virus is exactly equal to the other virus, but the comparison can be helpful. https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-can-other-coronaviruses-tell-us-about-sars-cov-2-20200429/ https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-can-other-coronaviruses-... (HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23019199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23019199 | 204 points | days ago | 189 comments)
ShorsHammer 6y ago
Singapore is doing fine and has one the lowest death rates in the world. Nearly 100x less than the global average for case fatalities. For all these people testing positive no one is actually dying, most don't even have symptoms.
holler 6y ago
hasn't it been shown that vitamin-D deficiency has been shown as an aggravating factor in case mortality with covid? It's not a big extrapolation then to suggest places with warm sunshine would tend to have better outcomes.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago

It's a well-known correlation with influenza. Yes it may be untrue with Corona Virus, but that remains to be seen. It would be unusual if the correlation didn't hold.

wbronitsky 6y ago
Please stop insisting we have evidence when none exists. My question was: do we have evidence that warm weather slows Covid outbreaks? So far, the answer is “no”, and asserting anything else is not an argument, it’s a made up story.
- blix 6y ago
  Asserting that there is absolutely no temperature dependence without evidence is pretty much the same thing as asserting there absolutely is without evidence. If there is no data, the best choice is to say that you don't know while coming up with plausible hypotheses. That a virus might share some traits with other closely related viruses is not so uncommon. Extrapolation from prior evidence when no direct evidence is available is one of the main capabilities of the scientific method. This is pretty far from a 'made up story.' It's a bit of moot point though. Because of the extremely plausible nature of the idea that covid might have some temperature dependence, there are many people investigating this specific claim. With a cursory web search, you can find several papers and pre-prints on the subject, a small majority of which find evidence to support that trend. Saying that temperature can't affect covid transmission because Singapore is having a tough time is akin to suggesting climate change isn't real because it snowed in April. It is just one data point.
  - gus_massa 6y ago
    There was a nice article about similar coronavirus. No virus is exactly equal to the other virus, but the comparison can be helpful. https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-can-other-coronaviruses-tell-us-about-sars-cov-2-20200429/ https://www.quantamagazine.org/what-can-other-coronaviruses-... (HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23019199 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23019199 | 204 points | days ago | 189 comments)

ShorsHammer 6y ago

Singapore is doing fine and has one the lowest death rates in the world. Nearly 100x less than the global average for case fatalities. For all these people testing positive no one is actually dying, most don't even have symptoms.

holler 6y ago

hasn't it been shown that vitamin-D deficiency has been shown as an aggravating factor in case mortality with covid? It's not a big extrapolation then to suggest places with warm sunshine would tend to have better outcomes.