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I trust elected politicians, controlled by checks and balances, more than unelected greedy billionaires only supervised by themselves. How about you?

by 101404 6y ago

scarface74 6y ago
Well, seeing that: 1. The average tenure of Senator or Representative in the US is steadily increasing. (https://www.termlimits.com/new-research-congressional-tenure-steadily-increasing/ https://www.termlimits.com/new-research-congressional-tenure...) and because of how much money it takes to win an election, it’s really hard to get rid of a member of Congress. 2. Because of how both the Electoral College was designed and the design of the Senate with 2 senators per state regardless of population, if you live in a more populous state, you have less voting power. 3. The more tenured Senators have more power and they have the power to block legislation. The people of the state where the leaders live are the only ones that can oust the Senate leaders. 4. Most rules aren’t done by legislators they are done by committees led by Presidential appointees who are approved by the Senate - again appointments can be blocked by the leaders of the Senate. Many of their policies are approved and struck down by unelected judges. 5. Then there is always gerrymandering. 6. You really don’t believe politicians - many of whom basically did insider trading pre-Covid - are greedy rich people? The President himself is a billionaire.
- 101404 6y ago
  > You really don’t believe politicians - ... - are greedy rich people? Could you point out where I said that? Please don't put words into my mouth just to "win" a discussion. That's pretty cheap.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    “I trust elected politicians, controlled by checks and balances, more than unelected greedy billionaires only supervised by themselves.” So the alternative between trusting greedy rich people who both don’t have the power of the state, and I can choose to use alternatives, is to trust greedy rich people with the power of the state - most of which I have no power to get rid of because a) they aren’t in my district, b) the alternatives don’t have the money to get elected, and c) get elected by the flyover states because they have two senators just like the more populous states

I trust elected politicians, controlled by checks and balances, more than unelected greedy billionaires only supervised by themselves. How about you?

by 101404 6y ago

I trust elected politicians, controlled by checks and balances, more than unelected greedy billionaires only supervised by themselves. How about you?

scarface74 6y ago

Well, seeing that: 1. The average tenure of Senator or Representative in the US is steadily increasing. (https://www.termlimits.com/new-research-congressional-tenure-steadily-increasing/ https://www.termlimits.com/new-research-congressional-tenure...) and because of how much money it takes to win an election, it’s really hard to get rid of a member of Congress. 2. Because of how both the Electoral College was designed and the design of the Senate with 2 senators per state regardless of population, if you live in a more populous state, you have less voting power. 3. The more tenured Senators have more power and they have the power to block legislation. The people of the state where the leaders live are the only ones that can oust the Senate leaders. 4. Most rules aren’t done by legislators they are done by committees led by Presidential appointees who are approved by the Senate - again appointments can be blocked by the leaders of the Senate. Many of their policies are approved and struck down by unelected judges. 5. Then there is always gerrymandering. 6. You really don’t believe politicians - many of whom basically did insider trading pre-Covid - are greedy rich people? The President himself is a billionaire.

101404 6y ago
> You really don’t believe politicians - ... - are greedy rich people? Could you point out where I said that? Please don't put words into my mouth just to "win" a discussion. That's pretty cheap.
- scarface74 6y ago
  “I trust elected politicians, controlled by checks and balances, more than unelected greedy billionaires only supervised by themselves.” So the alternative between trusting greedy rich people who both don’t have the power of the state, and I can choose to use alternatives, is to trust greedy rich people with the power of the state - most of which I have no power to get rid of because a) they aren’t in my district, b) the alternatives don’t have the money to get elected, and c) get elected by the flyover states because they have two senators just like the more populous states