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> This is what free gmail means to me. Same goes for youtube I would add (free) Github to that list.
by lqet 7y ago
> This is what free gmail means to me. Same goes for youtube
I would add (free) Github to that list.
- arkitaip 7y agoOnly Github has a MUCH better track record than Google on these matters.
- PopeDotNinja 7y agoUnless you live in a place like Iran or Crimea.
- toomuchtodo 7y agoMost of us don’t.
- PopeDotNinja 7y agoMy point is that it sucks to discriminate against people just based on where they live. One day you're in Sevastopol working remotely for some company that uses GitHub. The next day some politicians decided your in a "bad" place and your permanently banned. It sucks, and hopefully it won't happen to you or me, but it totally could.
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- ARandomerDude 7y agoYou act like this is arbitrary. "Politicians" with radically opposed worldviews, and from multiple countries, have endorsed this policy, including all recent presidents. If you live in Iran, not having GitHub is a problem, but not your biggest one.
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- fossuser 6y agoThese are international government sanctions - the companies cannot choose to ignore them without severe consequences.
- lonelappde 6y agoSure, but that's a consequence of international war. The war (and the warmongers) is your main problem. The rest are a large pile of details. When the tanks roll in I'm not worried about my GitHub issues.
- komali2 6y agoThis comment, perhaps unintentionally, does imply that the people in those countries deserve less, are less than, us. That's a morally reprehensible position to take, imo. Is that your position? Are you aware of that implication behind your comment?
- lkbm 6y agoNo, the comment implies that risks that only apply to people in two countries don't apply to people not in those countries. This doesn't in any way suggest they deserve less or that their risk is morally irrelevant. Simply that the risk to them is not something I need to factor into the risk assessment of my own account.
- zapttt 7y agoshhhh. silicon valey doesn't know there's life past berkley.
- moron4hire 7y agoThat one isn't Github's "fault", though. That's going to happen if you use any service incorporated in the US.
- dmos62 7y agoWhy is that? Is private business obligated to follow host country's foreign policy? My instinct is to hold the business responsible for these decisions.
- eythian 7y agoSometimes, yes. If the host's country's government applies sanctions to your country, they may have to stop allowing you to use their services.
- afarrell 7y agoYes, a private business is obligated to follow the laws of any country where they hold assets that can be seized by the police of that country.
- dmos62 6y agoCensorship is a law in US now? Or, are you saying that it's law to follow its foreign policy? In that case you sure have a round-about way of saying that.
- freeone3000 6y agoThe Trading with the Enemy Act empowers the Office of Foreign Asset Control to come down very hard (million-dollar fines and years of jail time) on anyone dealing with a sanctioned nation (N.Korea, Iran, Cuba) or anyone on the list of Specially Designated Persons and Nationals. This is absolutely the law, yes.
- dmos62 6y agoThe accounts were closed because they were business accounts from sanctioned countries? I didn't realise that. I had misunderstood that Github was enforcing the said countries' censorship.
- numpad0 7y agoGitHub is also much newer. Microsoft, its parent company, isn’t all that better as well. I think there were OneDrive-triggered killing spree at some point when they made backup to it more or less silent and offended by what people were “uploading to website”
- ken 7y agoAre they still? I’ve certainly noticed in other areas (like tech support) they’ve gone from “hungry startup” to “division of mega corporation”.
- mceachen 7y agoIf you've cloned your repos you've already got your most important data (except issues, wiki, and releases, which may be unused or non-critical).
- ken 7y agoGitHub wikis are repos, too, so they’re trivial to clone.
- wadkar 6y agoFor those wondering how: just replace .git suffix with .wiki.git suffix to the repository URI and you can access the Wiki (assuming it is enabled for the given repo)
- henryfjordan 6y agoReleases use the git tag system so you might lose the release notes or build artifacts but you at least can rebuild
- ryandrake 7y agoIt seems like a pretty safe default policy for any service you get for free, or where the company is under no contractual obligation to you to do, well, pretty much anything.
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