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This is a common rebuttal. Nobody is suggesting the virus is a hoax, or that it's not killing anyone, or that it isn't bad. What people are saying is that 1) t

This is a common rebuttal. Nobody is suggesting the virus is a hoax, or that it's not killing anyone, or that it isn't bad. What people are saying is that 1) these lockdown measures aren't effective and 2) the side effects caused by keeping everyone under house arrest do more harm than the virus. Yes, it's true that the virus spreads very quickly, but it's actually not very lethal. So sure it happens all at once, but it's nowhere close to as bad as the early models predicted. Hospitals aren't anywhere near capacity, in fact in most places they're having to lay off medical workers and close down sections of hospitals because they can't afford to keep their doors open. If you want to keep spreading nonsense, then please do because I respect your right to do so, but I implore you (and others) to take a good hard look at the facts and try to understand what's really going on.

DanBC 6y ago
> but it's actually not very lethal It's pretty lethal to people over 60. > but it's nowhere close to as bad as the early models predicted. But you think the lockdowns don't work? > Hospitals aren't anywhere near capacity, Not true. > in fact in most places they're having to lay off medical workers and close down sections of hospitals because they can't afford to keep their doors open. Not true.
- brenden2 6y ago
  I hate to break it to you, but the older you get the more likely you are to die from any cause. Take a look at the data yourself: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm
  - DanBC 6y ago
    Cool, now go look at the CDC figures for excess all cause mortality for April this year compared to the previous five years. From your link: > The 10 leading causes of infant death in 2018 remained the same as in 2017. Now go include 2020 there, and we're not even half way through the year.
jsnell 6y ago
The early estimates for how lethal the virus would be were basically spot on. E.g. the Imperial model, which drove the policy changes in UK was based on an IFR estimate of 0.9% based on the UK population structure. The best available evidence we have right now suggests the IFR will be around 0.5-1%.
belltaco 6y ago
>What people are saying is that 1) these lockdown measures aren't effective and 2) the side effects caused by keeping everyone under house arrest do more harm than the virus. The parent poster quoted someone saying "this isn't unusual". >Hospitals aren't anywhere near capacity, in fact in most places they're having to lay off medical workers and close down sections of hospitals because they can't afford to keep their doors open. That is because of the lockdowns. >If you want to keep spreading nonsense, then please do because I respect your right to do so, but I implore you (and others) to take a good hard look at the facts and try to understand what's really going on. Same to you.

DanBC 6y ago

> but it's actually not very lethal It's pretty lethal to people over 60. > but it's nowhere close to as bad as the early models predicted. But you think the lockdowns don't work? > Hospitals aren't anywhere near capacity, Not true. > in fact in most places they're having to lay off medical workers and close down sections of hospitals because they can't afford to keep their doors open. Not true.

brenden2 6y ago
I hate to break it to you, but the older you get the more likely you are to die from any cause. Take a look at the data yourself: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm
- DanBC 6y ago
  Cool, now go look at the CDC figures for excess all cause mortality for April this year compared to the previous five years. From your link: > The 10 leading causes of infant death in 2018 remained the same as in 2017. Now go include 2020 there, and we're not even half way through the year.

jsnell 6y ago

The early estimates for how lethal the virus would be were basically spot on. E.g. the Imperial model, which drove the policy changes in UK was based on an IFR estimate of 0.9% based on the UK population structure. The best available evidence we have right now suggests the IFR will be around 0.5-1%.

belltaco 6y ago

>What people are saying is that 1) these lockdown measures aren't effective and 2) the side effects caused by keeping everyone under house arrest do more harm than the virus. The parent poster quoted someone saying "this isn't unusual". >Hospitals aren't anywhere near capacity, in fact in most places they're having to lay off medical workers and close down sections of hospitals because they can't afford to keep their doors open. That is because of the lockdowns. >If you want to keep spreading nonsense, then please do because I respect your right to do so, but I implore you (and others) to take a good hard look at the facts and try to understand what's really going on. Same to you.