I've been running Debian since ~1994, and never really got the excitement about Ubuntu. Some colleagues did, but it seemed to be more about the marketing. I'v

I've been running Debian since ~1994, and never really got the excitement about Ubuntu. Some colleagues did, but it seemed to be more about the marketing. I've always been a KDE user, which was always a first class citizen option during the Debian installation process. For Gnome / Unity users having that default promoted and baked into the distribution might have been compelling. The refrain 'but it's so much easier to install' never really sat well with me -- I hand-install my desktop & laptop OS's infrequently, given the upgrade process (with Debian) has always been wonderfully robust. I auto-install and maintain, almost exclusively headless, every other VM, so a nicer installer wasn't relevant there. Claims of 'stodgy' versions are rebutted by using testing or unstable branches, or even backports. For enterprise, stodgy's often a plus in any case -- look at what you get with RHEL/CentOS.