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Some feedback, and maybe I'm feeding the troll here, but in case I'm not: It doesn't read like you are asking in good faith. It reads like you are punching dow

Some feedback, and maybe I'm feeding the troll here, but in case I'm not: It doesn't read like you are asking in good faith. It reads like you are punching down at Animal Crossing fans. (And I certainly read your first comment as insinuating that people who like the game are 'kids or housewives'.) You explicitly ask the reader to apply backwards negative stereotypes to the concept of housewives. Then go on to defend the efficacy of those (backward, negative) stereotypes. It reads to me like you are deliberately baiting your reader. > I want the perspective of people in "my tribe" We aren't your tribe. HN readership comes from all walks. You are as likely to run into a plumber as you are a CEO, a libertarian or a socialist, an evangelical or queer person, etc. etc. People on this board generally generally disagree about many topics, often aggressively. I think it's probably dangerous to make 'in jokes', or assume a friendly/helpful response, because we're really all strangers here who loosely coalesced around a loose notion of the hacker ethos.

markdown 7y ago
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. > It reads like you are punching down at Animal Crossing fans. (And I certainly read your first comment as insinuating that people who like the game are 'kids or housewives'.) I've seen some screenshots and the game characters fit my idea of what kids enjoy. Of course I could be totally wrong... which is why I asked for the views of HN folk. Whether you think that's punching down depends on whether you think kids and housewives are beneath you. To me they're just a different demographic from the one I'm in. > You explicitly ask the reader to apply backwards negative stereotypes to the concept of housewives. I'm sure you can tell that I'm not very articulate. Still, I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. I'm not asking the reader to think negatively of women, whether they be housewives or not. If anything, I'm exposing myself as a backwards jerk who holds negative views of women who tend to the home. > We aren't your tribe. HN readership comes from all walks. I very much doubt that. How long have you been here? HN is a hell of a bubble, with the vast majority being college-educated Americans. Basically a sliver of a sliver of a sliver of the world population. Still, thank you for the feedback. Seriously. I need to be more mindful of cultural differences and avoid saying things that trigger Americans.
- dang 7y ago
  > HN is a hell of a bubble, with the vast majority being college-educated Americans. You're jumping to some major conclusions there. Last I checked the numbers, about half of HN is in the U.S., and of course not all are college educated. HN is more varied than you imagine. It's not just you, of course. It's common for people to imagine that HN is a certain way and then to complain about how that-way it is. I believe you that your 'housewives' bit wasn't intended the way it sounded, but you can't blame other users for taking it that way. You literally went out of your way to tell them to. Then when they did, you patronized them ("There's no need to try and score social points based on reading in my comment things that aren't there"). That pattern-matches to trolling whether you intended it or not: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20troll%20effects&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

markdown 7y ago

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. > It reads like you are punching down at Animal Crossing fans. (And I certainly read your first comment as insinuating that people who like the game are 'kids or housewives'.) I've seen some screenshots and the game characters fit my idea of what kids enjoy. Of course I could be totally wrong... which is why I asked for the views of HN folk. Whether you think that's punching down depends on whether you think kids and housewives are beneath you. To me they're just a different demographic from the one I'm in. > You explicitly ask the reader to apply backwards negative stereotypes to the concept of housewives. I'm sure you can tell that I'm not very articulate. Still, I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. I'm not asking the reader to think negatively of women, whether they be housewives or not. If anything, I'm exposing myself as a backwards jerk who holds negative views of women who tend to the home. > We aren't your tribe. HN readership comes from all walks. I very much doubt that. How long have you been here? HN is a hell of a bubble, with the vast majority being college-educated Americans. Basically a sliver of a sliver of a sliver of the world population. Still, thank you for the feedback. Seriously. I need to be more mindful of cultural differences and avoid saying things that trigger Americans.

dang 7y ago
> HN is a hell of a bubble, with the vast majority being college-educated Americans. You're jumping to some major conclusions there. Last I checked the numbers, about half of HN is in the U.S., and of course not all are college educated. HN is more varied than you imagine. It's not just you, of course. It's common for people to imagine that HN is a certain way and then to complain about how that-way it is. I believe you that your 'housewives' bit wasn't intended the way it sounded, but you can't blame other users for taking it that way. You literally went out of your way to tell them to. Then when they did, you patronized them ("There's no need to try and score social points based on reading in my comment things that aren't there"). That pattern-matches to trolling whether you intended it or not: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=by%3Adang%20troll%20effects&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...