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> endured some harrowing experiences while in Iraq, including escaping from a terrorist attack by scaling a building ledge ten stories up This is fascinating :

> endured some harrowing experiences while in Iraq, including escaping from a terrorist attack by scaling a building ledge ten stories up This is fascinating :) https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040201745.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/0...

dntbnmpls 6y ago
As fascinating as hillary, brian williams, jessica lynch, pat tillman, etc war time fiction peddled by the media. Pretty much every nonsense you read in the papers during war is bound to be a lie or highly exaggerated. The first casualty of war is the truth after all. Last I checked we've been in a neverending period of war.
- nominated1 6y ago
  Please expand on Pat Tillman. He does not belong on that list. This is the same man that as soon as the war moved from Afghanistan to Iraq was quoted as saying “this war is so fucking illegal.” Full disclouse: I knew him personally… mostly from a distance. It was disgusting seeing the likes of Senator John McCain try to capitalize on his death. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t the man depicted in Jon Krakauers’ book.
  - dntbnmpls 6y ago
    You are misunderstanding my point. My issue isn't with the individuals, my issue was with the war time "stories" made up by the military/news. Pat Tillman was killed in friendly fire. But the story we got initially was that he was killed by the enemy. "Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal approved the Silver Star citation on April 28, 2004, which gave a detailed account of Tillman's death including the phrase "in the line of devastating enemy fire," but the next day he sent a P4 confidential memo warning senior government members that Tillman might actually have been killed by friendly fire" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman#Surrounding_Tillman's_death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman#Surrounding_Tillma... Certainly Tillman didn't spread the lies. Jessica Lynch didn't spread the lies either. It was the military/news/etc. Hence : The first casualty of war is the truth. > Full disclouse: I knew him personally… mostly from a distance. Yeah, I knew him "personally" too like millions of other football fans.

dntbnmpls 6y ago

As fascinating as hillary, brian williams, jessica lynch, pat tillman, etc war time fiction peddled by the media. Pretty much every nonsense you read in the papers during war is bound to be a lie or highly exaggerated. The first casualty of war is the truth after all. Last I checked we've been in a neverending period of war.

nominated1 6y ago
Please expand on Pat Tillman. He does not belong on that list. This is the same man that as soon as the war moved from Afghanistan to Iraq was quoted as saying “this war is so fucking illegal.” Full disclouse: I knew him personally… mostly from a distance. It was disgusting seeing the likes of Senator John McCain try to capitalize on his death. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t the man depicted in Jon Krakauers’ book.
- dntbnmpls 6y ago
  You are misunderstanding my point. My issue isn't with the individuals, my issue was with the war time "stories" made up by the military/news. Pat Tillman was killed in friendly fire. But the story we got initially was that he was killed by the enemy. "Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal approved the Silver Star citation on April 28, 2004, which gave a detailed account of Tillman's death including the phrase "in the line of devastating enemy fire," but the next day he sent a P4 confidential memo warning senior government members that Tillman might actually have been killed by friendly fire" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman#Surrounding_Tillman's_death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Tillman#Surrounding_Tillma... Certainly Tillman didn't spread the lies. Jessica Lynch didn't spread the lies either. It was the military/news/etc. Hence : The first casualty of war is the truth. > Full disclouse: I knew him personally… mostly from a distance. Yeah, I knew him "personally" too like millions of other football fans.