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The cost of a 1TB SSD drive just dropped below $98
- ggm 6y agoI expect to see a rise in SSD form factor home NAS boards & enclosures. The pain-point right now is the PSU. If its built in it usually incurs the fan.
- PatrolX 6y agoEnclosure prices are ridiculous, someone needs to enter that market and slaughter it.
- ggm 6y agoNo disagree! https://kobol.io/ https://kobol.io/ looked interesting. I'm unaffiliated.
- PatrolX 6y agoIt would be more interesting if they reduced the price by $200. Raspberry PI and a bit of plastic.
- freeqaz 6y agoIf you want actually decent performance, you need a board with real I/O available (like PCI-E and SATA). And full speed gigabit, if you want to be able to access your data at reasonable speeds. And if you want it to be quiet + cool your drives, that costs money. Not to mention the software — Is this bare metal or does it come with a base OS? Does the vendor offer driver support or are you stuck with ancient Debian? What about manufacturing volume, is it 1000 units or 10 million units? Those all will influence the price, especially for something fairly niche. ;)
- ashtonkem 6y agoThat’s all hypothetical until they move from pre-order to regular sales.
- Scene_Cast2 6y agoI have their previous version (the smaller form factor with ECC RAM). I trust them to deliver.
- jrockway 6y agoI wonder if there is demand. People go crazy about their data, and the way they "protect" it is with fancy bits of metal, not reed-solomon codes. I have found 3D printing very fruitful for all of my one-off enclosure needs. For larger things (i.e., 100 hard drives, not O(10) SSDs) I recommend looking into bending sheet metal. This is a technique that I just learned about and it's been eye-opening. Everything in the world is bent sheet metal. And the CAD skills you learn doing 3D printing translate nicely to sheet metal.
- bsamuels 6y agoI definitely felt the same way when I was shopping for my first NAS. A two-bay Synology ran about $300 for new on Amazon and I just couldn't figure out why it was so expensive. A few months later I picked one up used on Ebay for $120, and after using it for a few weeks, I can now report why these cost so much. The amount of software that comes on this thing is absolutely mind blowing. I was able to set up a bidirectional sync to my cloud drive, differential backups, compressed folders for archival, and a backup to Glacier for off-site backup without writing a single line of code. With a bit of additional digging into their package center, I found out I could install Docker & run GitLab on the NAS, along with a bunch of other self-hostable software. I realize I could have probably built my own NAS and used FreeNAS for a fraction of the price of buying new, however the amount of time that would have spent configuring/debugging/setting up FreeNAS makes the vendor-purchased NAS a much better investment.
- PatrolX 6y agoThe cloud features you described are trivial to implement, I don't see how those features justify such a high price.
- dingaling 6y agoBut those features weren't in your original specification ( 'I need a NAS enclosure' ) so why pay for them? The manufacturers know that plain mechanical enclosures have very low margins so they implement features that are perceived-needs ( 'oh that sounds cool!' ) and crank the margins by hundreds of per cent.
- vmception 6y agoI just buy enclosures and fill them with SSDs. I haven't dealt with hard drives in a decade. hashtag blessed. but more like hashtag priorities as there are plenty of things I didn't spend that extra few hundred dollars on.
- Kequc 6y agoThat's great, Apple can stop charging thousands of dollars for them.
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- ashtonkem 6y agoApple charged multiples of the market price when they were installing user upgrade able consumer grade 2.5” HDDs into their laptops, this won’t stop them.
- smnrchrds 6y agoI hate the fact that in the year of our lord 2020, Apple is still selling new iMacs with HDD, and to add insult to injury, charges an arm and a leg to upgrade to SSD. SSD should not be an upgrade in 2020. It should be the base level default. If they want to allow upgrading to Optane or something else, fine; but not SSD. Apple is so behind I feel like a parody twitter account similar to Internet Explorer one is in order.
- vegetablepotpie 6y agoApple products are not just worth the sum of their components, they are an “experience” unto themselves. I type that both sarcastically and with complete sincerity. Apple is vertically integrated, which puts their products in a different class than Intel/Windows, ARM/Android. If you’re an Apple user you’re not worried necessarily about the CPU or memory, your concern is whether you can run the Mac OS or iOS and the ecosystem that goes with it. So Apple doesn’t have to compete on price for its hardware, but rather on other intangibles.
- ashtonkem 6y agoAgreed. I’m just pointing out that the price that Apple charged and the underlying price of the components is poorly correlated. Apple will charge what you’ll pay, not what it costs to produce.
- morsch 6y agoMeanwhile, high-end 1 TB drives -- e.g. Samsung 970 EVO, ADATA XPG SX8100/SX8200 -- are if anything more expensive now than they were 6 months ago, ~175 EUR. At least where I live.
- bogdanu 6y agoAnd 970 plus around 219 eur on amazon.de. Still better than 5 years ago when I've paid the same price for a 250G 850 pro.
- bluedino 6y agoThis is some kind of advertisement. This is a low-performing DRAM-less drive. "Good" drives like the Crucial MX500 were regularly found for $100 during the second half of last year Prices jumped and are slowly coming back down. https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B077SF8KMG https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B077SF8KMG
- JadeNB 6y ago> This is some kind of advertisement. I initially misread the domain as 'anandtech.com', and the logo sure seems like it would be happy to be mistaken for AnandTech's. The site also carries explicit adverts like https://arador.com/how-to-earn-176-in-under-an-hour-by-learning-about-crypto https://arador.com/how-to-earn-176-in-under-an-hour-by-learn... .
- PatrolX 6y agoThe price just shot up from $97.99 to $250+ in the past few minutes (Amazon algo due to sudden interest?) and the post was updated with a link that shows ALL SSD drives. The fact still remains, SSD prices for 1TB drives have dropped significantly.
- wtallis 6y agoAt the end of 2019, everyone was expecting the NAND flash memory market to be on its way toward a shortage in 2H2020, and the major oversupply that pushed prices so low was over. When the coronavirus hit, it was initially unclear whether it would do more to depress supply or demand, so price trends weren't very consistent (especially with lots of stuff going temporarily out of stock). Now the picture seems to be that NAND production hasn't been slowed much but demand is way down, especially for client/consumer drives (as opposed to server SSDs).
- bluedino 6y agoI would have thought demand would have went out since laptops all sold out at the start of the stay at home orders
- bmmayer1 6y agoAmazing. I remember the original Zip drives (and Jaz drives after that) and the price point was somewhere around $200 for 100MB. Would be nice to see this sort of progress in quality and price in, say, healthcare.
- loeg 6y agoCheap QLC (not the DRAM-less crap) was sub-$100 per TB last year (closer to $90/TB). This is not the first time flash has crossed this particular arbitrary price threshold.
- neixidbeksoxyd 6y agoThis seems like a straight up ad with affiliate links. The price of SSDs has been going down for months, and if anything they went up since the pandemic began. You can check the price history of popular ones on camelcamelcamel to confirm.
- p1mrx 6y agoI'm thinking about putting an NVMe SSD in my Haswell-based desktop from 2013. The BIOS can't boot from NVMe directly, but I should be able to install Clover EFI on a flash drive, and mount it to an internal USB header. However, the idea is mildly ridiculous because I only have PCIe 2.0 x1 slots available (and one 3.0 x16 slot for the GPU), which is limited to 500 MB/sec, compared to SATA-III at 600 MB/sec. Most NVMe drives support PCIe 3.0 x4, which is 3940MB/s. It'd be nice if I could bond two of the x1 slots into an x2, but that would require exotic hardware and chipset support. A basic x1 -> M.2 adapter is $5 on AliExpress, so I'm going to run at 500 MB/sec for the heck of it.
- papermachete 6y agoYou are not realistically going to be bottlenecked at 500MB/s unless you load few large files.
- monkpit 6y agoCheck out diskprices.com for a great resource that’s not just ads. I found out about it via HN originally and use it often when making purchases or suggesting purchases to others.