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Those are necessary. Engineer: "Can't you see we are all very smart and working harmoniously to your goal? Just leave us alone already!" Manager: "Well Fred i

by Noos 6y ago

Those are necessary. Engineer: "Can't you see we are all very smart and working harmoniously to your goal? Just leave us alone already!" Manager: "Well Fred is bullying Steve about this aspect of the product, because he doesn't like his way of doing it and thinks he can do it better. This puts way too much pressure on Fred who will crack trying to do two jobs, and resentment from Steve, who is actually doing a fine job. I need to talk to Fred about this." "Also Mike is slacking, working on his side hustle while only contributing the bare minimum to the project. People are noticing and are getting mad at him, cutting him out of the loop more and more." I don't think management as a role is appreciated much, but it can be vital. It can also be very bad, but the abuse doesn't abolish the use.

8ytecoder 6y ago
Management != monitoring presence of butt in the seat. You bring up very good points and that’s exactly what management is supposed to be about. Enable everyone to perform at their best as best as possible. It’s just that it’s hard and people resort to indirect markers. “Does she come to office on time?” “Does she spend enough time at work?“ Not many managers try to find out - “is she doing the best she can?” “What’s preventing her from that?” “How can I help her?” How many managers have a real good relationship with their team that the team shares their real issues preventing them? How many team members feel judged or not heard? All these have nothing to do with working from home or remote btw.
- grogenaut 6y ago
  I do think plenty of managers who have to manage out someone like the guy who will not stop doing the side hustle get a ton of shit on forums like these. Hell as a pair I had to send a coworker home because he was so embroiled in day trading. At one point I closed his laptop and said "your either here to work or you can go home and panic about the markets". He got real huffy and then went home. He apologized a week later (he was relatively introspective it just took him a day or so)

by Noos 6y ago

8ytecoder 6y ago

Management != monitoring presence of butt in the seat. You bring up very good points and that’s exactly what management is supposed to be about. Enable everyone to perform at their best as best as possible. It’s just that it’s hard and people resort to indirect markers. “Does she come to office on time?” “Does she spend enough time at work?“ Not many managers try to find out - “is she doing the best she can?” “What’s preventing her from that?” “How can I help her?” How many managers have a real good relationship with their team that the team shares their real issues preventing them? How many team members feel judged or not heard? All these have nothing to do with working from home or remote btw.

grogenaut 6y ago
I do think plenty of managers who have to manage out someone like the guy who will not stop doing the side hustle get a ton of shit on forums like these. Hell as a pair I had to send a coworker home because he was so embroiled in day trading. At one point I closed his laptop and said "your either here to work or you can go home and panic about the markets". He got real huffy and then went home. He apologized a week later (he was relatively introspective it just took him a day or so)