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I've been a very faithful Ubuntu user for 12 years now but if there's no easy way to disable this abomination then my current one (18.04) will be the last. Whos

I've been a very faithful Ubuntu user for 12 years now but if there's no easy way to disable this abomination then my current one (18.04) will be the last. Whose idea was it to replicate one of the worst features of Windows?

qznc 7y ago
18.04 is supported for three more years. Maybe that will be my Ubuntu countdown.
- scrappyjoe 7y ago
  18.04 has a ten year extended security maintenance life AFAIK, so you could stretch to 2028.
  - eitland 7y ago
    Wow, that's seriously impressive if true. As many others I haven't liked vanilla Ubuntu since they swapped Gnome 2 for a (what I think is a) clone of the Mac OS interface, but my desktop still uses the Ubuntu 18.04 base system under the hood so this might come in handy for a number of people like me.
  - danieldk 7y ago
    Ubuntu security updates do not cover the universe repository, which contains the largest number of packages. The universe repo is 'community-supported', which means that a lot of CVEs are not fixed in practice. https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.html https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.h... So, Ubuntu's LTS support is only relevant security-wise if you mostly stick to the main repository.
    - oarsinsync 7y ago
      Anyone have any idea what Debian's LTS security posture looks like? Is it also restricted to 'main' and does it also ignore 'contrib' and 'non-free'?
      - danieldk 7y ago
        Similar policy: https://www.debian.org/security/faq#contrib https://www.debian.org/security/faq#contrib However most packages in Debian are in main. AFAIK contrib is for FLOSS packages that somehow depend on packages that are not FLOSS.
na85 7y ago
Gnome has been replicating the worst parts of windows (the registry comes instantly to mind) since the release of Gnome 3.
- bepvte 7y ago
  gconf is like the windows registry how? is it just because its a centralized config store? how evil is an annotated, easy to use, non archaic file that some apps put their settings into?
  - mavhc 7y ago
    it must be evil because Microsoft did it. Weird that they copied everything else Windows did and people didn't mind. There's way more evil things about Windows, like click to raise and menu bars.
    - rrix2 7y ago
      Evil, huh?
- jhanschoo 7y ago
  A centralized location for GNOME config has always been present since GNOME 2 (maybe earlier, but 2 was when I started with GNOME). See, for example, this page https://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_desktop_guides/gnome_2.14_admin_guide/gconf-8.html https://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_desktop_guides...
  - Vogtinator 7y ago
    dconf is now a binary format though.
- harrygeez 7y ago
  I think gconf and macOS's plist have proven that Microsoft is at least somewhat right with registry, or at least the idea is. I don't know why people didn't like it and honestly I don't have a strong opinion on it, but I have a feeling in some ways Microsoft didn't have much of choice given that they need to have backwards compatibility.

qznc 7y ago

18.04 is supported for three more years. Maybe that will be my Ubuntu countdown.

scrappyjoe 7y ago
18.04 has a ten year extended security maintenance life AFAIK, so you could stretch to 2028.
- eitland 7y ago
  Wow, that's seriously impressive if true. As many others I haven't liked vanilla Ubuntu since they swapped Gnome 2 for a (what I think is a) clone of the Mac OS interface, but my desktop still uses the Ubuntu 18.04 base system under the hood so this might come in handy for a number of people like me.
- danieldk 7y ago
  Ubuntu security updates do not cover the universe repository, which contains the largest number of packages. The universe repo is 'community-supported', which means that a lot of CVEs are not fixed in practice. https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.html https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.h... So, Ubuntu's LTS support is only relevant security-wise if you mostly stick to the main repository.
  - oarsinsync 7y ago
    Anyone have any idea what Debian's LTS security posture looks like? Is it also restricted to 'main' and does it also ignore 'contrib' and 'non-free'?
    - danieldk 7y ago
      Similar policy: https://www.debian.org/security/faq#contrib https://www.debian.org/security/faq#contrib However most packages in Debian are in main. AFAIK contrib is for FLOSS packages that somehow depend on packages that are not FLOSS.

na85 7y ago

Gnome has been replicating the worst parts of windows (the registry comes instantly to mind) since the release of Gnome 3.

bepvte 7y ago
gconf is like the windows registry how? is it just because its a centralized config store? how evil is an annotated, easy to use, non archaic file that some apps put their settings into?
- mavhc 7y ago
  it must be evil because Microsoft did it. Weird that they copied everything else Windows did and people didn't mind. There's way more evil things about Windows, like click to raise and menu bars.
  - rrix2 7y ago
    Evil, huh?
jhanschoo 7y ago
A centralized location for GNOME config has always been present since GNOME 2 (maybe earlier, but 2 was when I started with GNOME). See, for example, this page https://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_desktop_guides/gnome_2.14_admin_guide/gconf-8.html https://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_desktop_guides...
- Vogtinator 7y ago
  dconf is now a binary format though.
harrygeez 7y ago
I think gconf and macOS's plist have proven that Microsoft is at least somewhat right with registry, or at least the idea is. I don't know why people didn't like it and honestly I don't have a strong opinion on it, but I have a feeling in some ways Microsoft didn't have much of choice given that they need to have backwards compatibility.