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This kind of practice is illegal in most developed countries. Hiring for the same position after giving someone a redundancy is considered intent for unreasonab

This kind of practice is illegal in most developed countries. Hiring for the same position after giving someone a redundancy is considered intent for unreasonable dismissal. Does the USA not have these kind of protections?

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Bedon292 7y ago
Many states in the US are at will employment. Meaning you can be fired at any time for basically any reason. Protected classes (race, gender, etc) and acts are the exemption to that. But they can use any excuse they want, fire you, and hire someone else to the same position right away.
soulofmischief 7y ago
I've had pay withheld for months, sudden massive pay cuts, rent spikes (residential jobs), in fact well over half of my previous bosses still owe me salary that I will never see. One job I had to quit because my boss refused to give me time to heal from work-inflicted RSI and I ended up getting carpal tunnel. I still deal with it today. The BBB has never followed up and lawyers are expensive for a young adult living on their own. This is America!
- brendoelfrendo 7y ago
  The BBB will be useless in this case. If your state has a department of labor, you can file a complaint with them; often, just going reporting your employer's practices doesn't require a lawyer. You can also try to go to small claims court yourself to recover back pay, if the amount doesn't exceed the small claims limit; small claims is usually pretty DIY friendly (as far as legal processes go).
  - soulofmischief 7y ago
    I've considered small claims but it's just never been worth it. And that's the margin in which these kind of people operate. As far as the BBB, that was really only one specific incident where it made sense to involve them. I was trying to disparage a boss for holding pay for the entire staff for a month and tried involving numerous organizations but he ended up getting away with it scot-free. I think not paying taxes eventually caught up with him though because that place was recently leveled. Looking back there was surely something I could have done to better escalate the situation but I was a dumb kid.
    - brendoelfrendo 7y ago
      Yeah, I don't blame you. That is, unfortunately, how the system fails us; young people who don't know their rights or people of any age who are desperate to keep their jobs are really vulnerable to exploitation by shitty bosses who know that the balance of power is skewed in their favor. But that's a conversation for another thread, probably...
emodendroket 7y ago
For the most part the answer to "can this possibly be legal under US employment law?!" is yes.
cylinder 7y ago
No it doesn't. Most states have at will employment meaning they can fire you because they don't like what you had for lunch.
itake 6y ago
They aren't filling the roles after. Companies are just trimming the under-performing fat.

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Bedon292 7y ago

Many states in the US are at will employment. Meaning you can be fired at any time for basically any reason. Protected classes (race, gender, etc) and acts are the exemption to that. But they can use any excuse they want, fire you, and hire someone else to the same position right away.

soulofmischief 7y ago

I've had pay withheld for months, sudden massive pay cuts, rent spikes (residential jobs), in fact well over half of my previous bosses still owe me salary that I will never see. One job I had to quit because my boss refused to give me time to heal from work-inflicted RSI and I ended up getting carpal tunnel. I still deal with it today. The BBB has never followed up and lawyers are expensive for a young adult living on their own. This is America!

brendoelfrendo 7y ago
The BBB will be useless in this case. If your state has a department of labor, you can file a complaint with them; often, just going reporting your employer's practices doesn't require a lawyer. You can also try to go to small claims court yourself to recover back pay, if the amount doesn't exceed the small claims limit; small claims is usually pretty DIY friendly (as far as legal processes go).
- soulofmischief 7y ago
  I've considered small claims but it's just never been worth it. And that's the margin in which these kind of people operate. As far as the BBB, that was really only one specific incident where it made sense to involve them. I was trying to disparage a boss for holding pay for the entire staff for a month and tried involving numerous organizations but he ended up getting away with it scot-free. I think not paying taxes eventually caught up with him though because that place was recently leveled. Looking back there was surely something I could have done to better escalate the situation but I was a dumb kid.
  - brendoelfrendo 7y ago
    Yeah, I don't blame you. That is, unfortunately, how the system fails us; young people who don't know their rights or people of any age who are desperate to keep their jobs are really vulnerable to exploitation by shitty bosses who know that the balance of power is skewed in their favor. But that's a conversation for another thread, probably...

emodendroket 7y ago

For the most part the answer to "can this possibly be legal under US employment law?!" is yes.

cylinder 7y ago

No it doesn't. Most states have at will employment meaning they can fire you because they don't like what you had for lunch.

itake 6y ago

They aren't filling the roles after. Companies are just trimming the under-performing fat.