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Geez, you're really off base on a lot of these comments. But to start somewhere: > $1,200 in tax from 4,000 digital nomads is...$5,000,000. Thailand's economy
by tdfx 6y ago
Geez, you're really off base on a lot of these comments. But to start somewhere:
> $1,200 in tax from 4,000 digital nomads is...$5,000,000. Thailand's economy generates $500,000,000,000 a year.
How are you only measuring direct tax income? They're spending foreign earned income on Airbnbs, hostels, bars, restaurants, likely multiples more than the average local, to the point that many successful businesses in Southeast Asia would cease to exist without a steady stream of these people.
> want to optimize for people who want to stay long term, adopt their values, become part of the social fabric
These countries don't want these people as permanent residents. As other posters pointed out, part of the unspoken contract is that they're leaving at some point. They come, they spend, and they leave before they get old and sick. If they were really taking more in services than they spent into GDP, the visa situations would change very quickly.
> What's more, the arguments all have a whiff of colonialism to them.
Please go travel to an immigration office in a third world country and see if you feel like you're exercising your white privilege. Officials in these countries tolerate travelers to the point that they're making out economically, but know they are in control. There's no subservience.
> there are effectively zero digital nomads who aren't white men
Sounds like you need to get involved in different social circles. I've seen the split to be about 50/50 gender-wise.
- robocat 6y agoMostly agree (see sister comment). > Please go travel to an immigration office in a third world country and see if you feel like you're exercising your white privilege. Officials in these countries tolerate travelers to the point that they're making out economically, but know they are in control. There's no subservience. I disagree strongly with this one statement. White privilege is definitely a thing. I have been a white tourist in many countries, and “travelling while white” simplifies plenty of things dramatically, and you can get away with things that a normal local cannot. However, I would guess 95% of that is due to the assumption made by locals that white === tourist === wealthy. The simple ability to fly into some countries immediately shows you are relatively very wealthy compared to the locals. I have also got away with plenty of shit as a English speaking tourist in “white” countries (euro and US), so colour isn’t the only thing. I do try to be generally respectful when I am a guest in other countries. Also I’m not American, which helps a lot as they seem to have a bad reputation most places.... Tourist often gets you the same privileges: I’ve seen white and non-white tourists in NZ get away with batshit crazy shit!