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Yeah, for sure. I was including sales tax etc in "what you consume". And there's actually a good argument to be made that countries that are popular digital nom
by spats1990 6y ago
Yeah, for sure. I was including sales tax etc in "what you consume". And there's actually a good argument to be made that countries that are popular digital nomad destinations could benefit greatly from setting up a specific visa class for remote workers. Most visa laws do not take remote work into account, or else unenforceably prohibit other sources of income, and a country that took a careful look at the up and downsides and set something up accordingly could reap serious benefits.
Morally it's a bit hazy at the moment. But if we think we'd be OK with someone living in our own country in three month chunks, while all the income they generate that is not spent on local goods/services essentially goes offshore, then no problem I guess. Add to that the fact that for the analogy to be accurate, our hypothetical person would likely speak our country's language at an extremely basic level, or not at all.
edit: just saw your edit and now I will have to edit accordingly >_<
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>Working visas allow people to take jobs from locals, which not what “digital nomads” are doing.
This is getting into slightly different ground than my OP. In the Asian countries I'm familiar with, almost all visas for foreigners do not take jobs from locals--they are for jobs locals can't do for whatever reason.
I agree with some of what you wrote about NZ and digital nomads' spending generally, but I still think it's reasonable to expect tax revenues from someone who is employed and in a country longer than 180 days. That's when the NZ government starts to consider NZ citizens as NZ tax residents--after 180 days in country. "Wanna stick around? Gotta contribute." is just my basic view I think, but thanks for your input.
- robocat 6y agoI did a quick squiz at numbers. GST and income tax are about equal sources of revenue to the NZ government[1], and social services plus education is about 1/2 of government expenditure. NZ export income is ~40 Billion, with 5 million inhabitants (USD4000 each). So anyone from a first world country earning overseas income and spending it here is a massive win for NZ, even without income tax (which pays for things they don’t get: social services and education)... So long as NZ can send them home if they stop spending, send them home if they can’t pay for expensive or chronic healthcare services, or send them home if it is causing significant negative social externalities. Even retirees from other countries should be welcome if they are spending savings. The Thailand example is more complicated and I did look at some of the economic numbers. I would struggle to see how getting significant foreign earnings could be anything but economically positive for Thailand - so long as the “digital nomads” are spending above say USD10000 per year and are not causing significant social harm.