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Had you mentioned the man that "runs" your country by name, I assure you, you would have been downvoted. Almost as if bots are monitoring this forum, and downv

• jshevek 6y ago
  >Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  • ljw1001 6y ago
    If it were boring, you wouldn't feel obligated to respond.
    • jshevek 6y ago
      There is so much wrong in one short post. I didn't claim that I find comments on voting boring, I cited the guidelines. I didn't feel obligated to respond, I felt it was useful and helpful to the community to respond. Your argument is a non sequitur. If I did find a pattern of behavior boring, I might comment on it to discourage it to improve the overall quality of my experience of the site.
  • osrec 6y ago
    Fair enough - it's just an interesting, yet somewhat scary trend me and my friends have noticed.
    • jlengrand 6y ago
      Didn't even mention the name, and I assure you I've been downvoted, and not just a little :). Make it what you want
• afiori 6y ago
  Personally I am no bot (an neither someone living in that country), but I am honestly tired of how methodically wrong the criticism are toward that person. It is as if a chuck of the world (as in this case, just like I am doing now, this particular country politics is often in international news) decided that only ever building strawmen was enough. it is just so tiring to see your own tribe, my tribe, have standard so low in term of what constitute a valid criticism.
  • osrec 6y ago
    What makes you feel he is not deserving of criticism? I am not from the US either, but the guy has made a mockery of himself. And it's not just media distorting the facts - a lot of the times, he makes himself look a fool in videos, where he is simply talking without interruption.
    • jshevek 6y ago
      [The parent comment does not suggest the premise of this question:] > What makes you feel he is not deserving of criticism? The focus on that comment was the nature and quality of the criticism, not the simple fact of some criticism occurring. For those of us who feel very strongly that there is some very important criticism we should be focused on, it can be frustrating and disheartening to see a media establishment, and millions of uncritical viewers, making the worst types of criticism (criticism based on lies and false reasoning). The most important (and valid) criticisms get lost in the noise. Further, moderately critical thinkers can become desensitized due to the low quality criticism. When they hear that he has done some new terrible thing, some of them start to tune it out as 'most likely another lie'. (Appending paragraphs with edits) One part of the problem is click-bait journalism. Hyperbolic claims get more eyeballs, more clicks. Incidentally, I agree with the second half of your statement.
      • osrec 6y ago
        > but I am honestly tired of how methodically wrong the criticism are toward that person The criticisms are described as "methodically wrong", but I disagree. In fact, while the US P frequently dabbles in ad-hominem, most criticisms of him seem valid and well presented. I don't feel he is being unfairly targeted by falsehoods, since much of the critique is a direct result of what comes out of his mouth, rather than hearsay. I do agree with you on click-bait journalism. I think the current US P has given the media an unbelievable boost, and they must be (secretly!) hoping he stays in office forever. I mean, they have probably never had such a sensational political soap-opera to report on! Yet only part of the sensationalism can be blamed on the media - much of the story is sensational in its own right, thanks to the person involved!