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Years ago, you didn't have private companies rummaging through your mail. Years ago, you didn't have police putting cameras up on poles to look over into your

by suizi 6y ago

Years ago, you didn't have private companies rummaging through your mail. Years ago, you didn't have police putting cameras up on poles to look over into your home. Years ago, libraries did not report you for reading the wrong book. If you think privacy has only gotten stronger, then I have some words for you.

supernova87a 6y ago
We are in the most privacy-focused time in history. You can live your life without interaction, and requiring people/govt to respect your privacy more than ever before, relying on fewer and fewer others in the community. Everything is moving towards the individual. All your examples are minor tech-focused small matters in life that have little to do with fundamental shifts in society.
- suizi 6y ago
  Face recognition, border searches rifling through your data, NSA mass-surveillance, Prism, every busybody agency going through people's data like food standards in the UK (that is the end goal of initiatives like this once they get you "used" to the lack of privacy), the CLOUD Act which lets foreign govs request any data they want from U.S. companies without oversight, giant data-stores of data which doesn't need to be stored ready to be Equifax-ed. 20 / 30 years ago, could the government identify precisely where you were and when without having to question witnesses? Was it even possible for this data to be leaked? Could they serve a warrant (or administrative order as warrants are overrated nowadays) on an Amazon Home assistant? An always-on listening device. Privacy is slipping away a bit at a time.
  - JoeSmithson 6y ago
    > "every busybody agency going through people's data like food standards in the UK" The fact that you believe this suggests to me that you have mainly acquired your opinions through highly biased and sensational sources. Perhaps you could restate more specifically what you mean by the FSA "going through people's data", or give some specific examples of what you believe are oppressive breaches of privacy that have been committed by the FSA?

by suizi 6y ago

supernova87a 6y ago

We are in the most privacy-focused time in history. You can live your life without interaction, and requiring people/govt to respect your privacy more than ever before, relying on fewer and fewer others in the community. Everything is moving towards the individual. All your examples are minor tech-focused small matters in life that have little to do with fundamental shifts in society.

suizi 6y ago
Face recognition, border searches rifling through your data, NSA mass-surveillance, Prism, every busybody agency going through people's data like food standards in the UK (that is the end goal of initiatives like this once they get you "used" to the lack of privacy), the CLOUD Act which lets foreign govs request any data they want from U.S. companies without oversight, giant data-stores of data which doesn't need to be stored ready to be Equifax-ed. 20 / 30 years ago, could the government identify precisely where you were and when without having to question witnesses? Was it even possible for this data to be leaked? Could they serve a warrant (or administrative order as warrants are overrated nowadays) on an Amazon Home assistant? An always-on listening device. Privacy is slipping away a bit at a time.
- JoeSmithson 6y ago
  > "every busybody agency going through people's data like food standards in the UK" The fact that you believe this suggests to me that you have mainly acquired your opinions through highly biased and sensational sources. Perhaps you could restate more specifically what you mean by the FSA "going through people's data", or give some specific examples of what you believe are oppressive breaches of privacy that have been committed by the FSA?